Schengen Visa Question
Nov 9, 2015, 2:40 am
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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Schengen Visa Question
Hi, I was wondering if anybody can help me figure out the time I am allowed to stay in the Schengen zone next year.
My first trip to Europe will be
France/Italy March 9th-April 5th =28 days
So the 180 day count begins on March 9th and 180 days from then is September 5th.
I will be returning to Europe in July.
I will be in London from July 3rd to 9th, which doesn't count towards the 90 days I believe.
I will then be in the Schengen zone from July 9th-21st = 12 days
I then leave it again to go to Croatia(which doesn't count?) till July 26th.
I re-enter the Schengen zone on July 26th if I stay till September 5th that will be 41 days.
So in total that will be 81 days within 180 days.
What I want to know is if it resets automatically on September 5th and I am allotted a new 90 days? Do I have to leave the Schengen zone for it to reset or can I just stay and it resets while I am there? If I have to leave the zone, is it acceptable to fly to London on the 5th and go back into the Schengen zone on the 6th and start a new 90 in 180?
Ideally I want to stay in the Schengen Area till September 21st before flying back to Canada, I am just wondering how I go about it so that I do not overstay or if I am even allowed to do so.
My first trip to Europe will be
France/Italy March 9th-April 5th =28 days
So the 180 day count begins on March 9th and 180 days from then is September 5th.
I will be returning to Europe in July.
I will be in London from July 3rd to 9th, which doesn't count towards the 90 days I believe.
I will then be in the Schengen zone from July 9th-21st = 12 days
I then leave it again to go to Croatia(which doesn't count?) till July 26th.
I re-enter the Schengen zone on July 26th if I stay till September 5th that will be 41 days.
So in total that will be 81 days within 180 days.
What I want to know is if it resets automatically on September 5th and I am allotted a new 90 days? Do I have to leave the Schengen zone for it to reset or can I just stay and it resets while I am there? If I have to leave the zone, is it acceptable to fly to London on the 5th and go back into the Schengen zone on the 6th and start a new 90 in 180?
Ideally I want to stay in the Schengen Area till September 21st before flying back to Canada, I am just wondering how I go about it so that I do not overstay or if I am even allowed to do so.
Nov 9, 2015, 2:44 am
#2
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 88
Hi, I was wondering if anybody can help me figure out the time I am allowed to stay in the Schengen zone next year.
My first trip to Europe will be
France/Italy March 9th-April 5th =28 days
So the 180 day count begins on March 9th and 180 days from then is September 5th.
I will be returning to Europe in July.
I will be in London from July 3rd to 9th, which doesn't count towards the 90 days I believe.
I will then be in the Schengen zone from July 9th-21st = 12 days
I then leave it again to go to Croatia(which doesn't count?) till July 26th.
I re-enter the Schengen zone on July 26th if I stay till September 5th that will be 41 days.
So in total that will be 81 days within 180 days.
What I want to know is if it resets automatically on September 5th and I am allotted a new 90 days? Do I have to leave the Schengen zone for it to reset or can I just stay and it resets while I am there? If I have to leave the zone, is it acceptable to fly to London on the 5th and go back into the Schengen zone on the 6th and start a new 90 in 180?
Ideally I want to stay in the Schengen Area till September 21st before flying back to Canada, I am just wondering how I go about it so that I do not overstay or if I am even allowed to do so.
My first trip to Europe will be
France/Italy March 9th-April 5th =28 days
So the 180 day count begins on March 9th and 180 days from then is September 5th.
I will be returning to Europe in July.
I will be in London from July 3rd to 9th, which doesn't count towards the 90 days I believe.
I will then be in the Schengen zone from July 9th-21st = 12 days
I then leave it again to go to Croatia(which doesn't count?) till July 26th.
I re-enter the Schengen zone on July 26th if I stay till September 5th that will be 41 days.
So in total that will be 81 days within 180 days.
What I want to know is if it resets automatically on September 5th and I am allotted a new 90 days? Do I have to leave the Schengen zone for it to reset or can I just stay and it resets while I am there? If I have to leave the zone, is it acceptable to fly to London on the 5th and go back into the Schengen zone on the 6th and start a new 90 in 180?
Ideally I want to stay in the Schengen Area till September 21st before flying back to Canada, I am just wondering how I go about it so that I do not overstay or if I am even allowed to do so.
http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs...g/index_en.htm
Nov 9, 2015, 4:19 am
#3
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What I want to know is if it resets automatically on September 5th and I am allotted a new 90 days? Do I have to leave the Schengen zone for it to reset or can I just stay and it resets while I am there? If I have to leave the zone, is it acceptable to fly to London on the 5th and go back into the Schengen zone on the 6th and start a new 90 in 180?
Nov 9, 2015, 5:23 am
#4
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 7,560
You always have to look back 180 days from the present day.
You have nine days left on 5 September. You will still have nine days left on 6 September because the first day of your first visit will have expired. You will still have nine days left on 7 September because the second day of your first visit will have expired. And so on.
You have nine days left on 5 September. You will still have nine days left on 6 September because the first day of your first visit will have expired. You will still have nine days left on 7 September because the second day of your first visit will have expired. And so on.
Nov 9, 2015, 10:10 am
#5
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Posts: 15,658
Erm, not quite. This is the case in a vast majority of the Schengen states but some (notably Belgium) interpret the regulation differently. It results in a typically EU scenario where the same regulation results in being legal in one country and illegal in another.
Nov 12, 2015, 3:13 am
#6
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Can you elaborate on how Belgium does it?
Nov 12, 2015, 6:49 am
#7
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Posts: 5,240
You always have to look back 180 days from the present day.
You have nine days left on 5 September. You will still have nine days left on 6 September because the first day of your first visit will have expired. You will still have nine days left on 7 September because the second day of your first visit will have expired. And so on.
You have nine days left on 5 September. You will still have nine days left on 6 September because the first day of your first visit will have expired. You will still have nine days left on 7 September because the second day of your first visit will have expired. And so on.
From my experience, its always looking back 180 days from the present day and seeing if you have stayed 90 days within that.