Game Changer Suite
#31


Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,198
#32
formerly JackDann


Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,258
Not flown EK before and looking to book in F from HKT to Europe in January.
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes)
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes)
#33


Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK
Programs: EK skywards Gold, BA, VS silver
Posts: 285
EK F is still F even if it is in old F and not GC. Frankly GC is over rated in my opinion If there is a change of equipment everything else remains the same unless it is change from 380 to777 with no bar or shower. No airline can guarantee that there will not be an equipment change. Just enjoy the ride.
#34




Join Date: May 2020
Location: DXB and JNB
Programs: EK Plat; (Happy) QR Exile
Posts: 938
Not flown EK before and looking to book in F from HKT to Europe in January.
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes)
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes)
EK tend to plan schedules in advance and stick to them. Way, way more stable and predictable than the QR lottery.
#35


Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: 1A
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EK F is still F even if it is in old F and not GC. Frankly GC is over rated in my opinion If there is a change of equipment everything else remains the same unless it is change from 380 to777 with no bar or shower. No airline can guarantee that there will not be an equipment change. Just enjoy the ride.
Cash tickets, never redemptions.
One of the top EK flyers in my country.
The only real benefit of GC vs 'traditional' F is the bathroom to pax ratio.
GC is cool for the first cple of trips, and then you realise just how practical and well-thought-out the original F seats were.
EK and their product team were ahead of the curve back in the day.
Plus, if we're being brutally honest - people are not paying a premium for GC vs non-GC.
From an economic standpoint, I doubt EK can justify retrofitting more planes with GC when the premium above their normal F seat isn't there.
Add in that GC means cutting down from 8 to 6 seats.
Additionally mix in the "it's not as great as you think" from pax perspective - and it's clear EK won't roll these out.
I mean GC seats are not even fully flat.
If the existing F seat was just made "just a little bit bigger" in every area, and some place to rest/elevate your legs, it would probably make the perfect F seat.
Since we're dreaming - if EK then figured out ground assistance at EVERY DESTIONATION, they'd beat the pants off every airline's F experience (currently La Premiere dominates the ground experience by a mile).
#36




Join Date: May 2020
Location: DXB and JNB
Programs: EK Plat; (Happy) QR Exile
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Plus, if we're being brutally honest - people are not paying a premium for GC vs non-GC.
From an economic standpoint, I doubt EK can justify retrofitting more planes with GC when the premium above their normal F seat isn't there.
Add in that GC means cutting down from 8 to 6 seats.
From an economic standpoint, I doubt EK can justify retrofitting more planes with GC when the premium above their normal F seat isn't there.
Add in that GC means cutting down from 8 to 6 seats.
STC said in two separate interviews that:
- The GC is the target future seat for the 77Ws and 77Xs. He said they may (my word, as things change, but IIRC he actually said will) retrofit the 77Ws (presumably the newer ones far from retirement) with the GC in another phase of retrofits. He said (again, IIRC) the main limitation preventing the F retrofit to GC on the 77Ws is supply chain issues, but I do remember him saying it would take a long time and J and PE are the priority.
- In another interview he covered the 388s, and he said they have another seat, inspired by the GC seat, for the 388s on the drawing board.
I dont think moving from six to eight seats makes a difference. Fares are already, on many routes, significantly up from four or five years ago (demonstrating people are willing to pay for a luxe experience). I also doubt a majority of flights had full Fs (paying customers), even before fares rocketed.
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#37




Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,060
#38




Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.5MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold, OW Emerald, HY Globalist
Posts: 5,513
I 100% agree. The seat often wobbles and isnt as sturdy, its not nearly as comfortable to me as it doesnt lean against a proper wall when flat the way the regular F suite does. They are very gimmicky to me. I often fly AKL-DXB in F which gets the newer A380s with the slighty taller, wider F suites and honestly thats as good as it gets for me.
#39


Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: 1A
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In addition to DLATL777 - GC seats don't go fully flat. I also find the table position not quite right. Screen is too far away for me. Doors sometimes open by themselves, or, are too difficult to open.
First world problems - but I find A380 seats have less issues.
First world problems - but I find A380 seats have less issues.
#40


Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: East Midlands UK
Programs: BAEC, Emirates Skywards, Etihad Guest & HiltonHHonors.
Posts: 327
I think that has to be part of why EK stopped installing them at 9 aircraft. it seems almost more of a marketing ploy than a sustainable product, certainly not fleet wide. Honestly the newest refreshed A380 F is plenty good. I often get that on AKL-DXB or SYD-DXB and its fantastic.
Also, which registrations should I look out for on FR24?
#41




Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NZ
Programs: NZ*E, QF-G, EK-P
Posts: 801
448/449 are always refurbished as they have premium economy.
but the A380 does not have the GC First.
there is discussion on another recent thread on the tail numbers - search Auckland in this forum and you should find it
EV or EU series.
but the A380 does not have the GC First.
there is discussion on another recent thread on the tail numbers - search Auckland in this forum and you should find it
EV or EU series.
#42




Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
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#43


Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 959
Planning to book EK F on the way back to the US from an Africa trip this summer. Ordinarily would return to either JFK or IADis it worth going out of my way to do DXB-ORD on the return to experience game-changer F? Ive done regular 777 F and A380 F multiple times (and have another upcoming EK F trip DEL-DXB-IAD in March where Ill be on the standard 777 and A380 again), so am inclined to go out of my way a bit for game changer for the novelty.
#44


Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: East Midlands UK
Programs: BAEC, Emirates Skywards, Etihad Guest & HiltonHHonors.
Posts: 327
Cypress
#45


Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 3,251
Planning to book EK F on the way back to the US from an Africa trip this summer. Ordinarily would return to either JFK or IADis it worth going out of my way to do DXB-ORD on the return to experience game-changer F? Ive done regular 777 F and A380 F multiple times (and have another upcoming EK F trip DEL-DXB-IAD in March where Ill be on the standard 777 and A380 again), so am inclined to go out of my way a bit for game changer for the novelty.
It's pretty amazing.

