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Originally Posted by lost_in_translation
(Post 37318867)
No unfortunately, there are an increasing number of refurbished 777s with the new J and PE products but the old F unfortunately (currently used on routes like STN, ICN, etc.).
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Not flown EK before and looking to book in F from HKT to Europe in January.
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes) |
EK F is still F even if it is in old F and not GC. Frankly GC is over rated in my opinion If there is a change of equipment everything else remains the same unless it is change from 380 to777 with no bar or shower. No airline can guarantee that there will not be an equipment change. Just enjoy the ride.
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Originally Posted by JD1905
(Post 37420774)
Not flown EK before and looking to book in F from HKT to Europe in January.
How regular are aircraft swaps? It looks as though GC F would be on DXB-BRU leg of the journey. I would be pretty gutted if it was to get changed, and understand there is always a chance - but interested to hear if this is regular or not? (For example, on QR it is very regular on some routes) EK tend to plan schedules in advance and stick to them. Way, way more stable and predictable than the QR lottery. |
Originally Posted by JudeS
(Post 37420886)
EK F is still F even if it is in old F and not GC. Frankly GC is over rated in my opinion If there is a change of equipment everything else remains the same unless it is change from 380 to777 with no bar or shower. No airline can guarantee that there will not be an equipment change. Just enjoy the ride.
Cash tickets, never redemptions. One of the top EK flyers in my country. The only real benefit of GC vs 'traditional' F is the bathroom to pax ratio. GC is cool for the first cple of trips, and then you realise just how practical and well-thought-out the original F seats were. EK and their product team were ahead of the curve back in the day. Plus, if we're being brutally honest - people are not paying a premium for GC vs non-GC. From an economic standpoint, I doubt EK can justify retrofitting more planes with GC when the premium above their normal F seat isn't there. Add in that GC means cutting down from 8 to 6 seats. Additionally mix in the "it's not as great as you think" from pax perspective - and it's clear EK won't roll these out. I mean GC seats are not even fully flat. If the existing F seat was just made "just a little bit bigger" in every area, and some place to rest/elevate your legs, it would probably make the perfect F seat. Since we're dreaming - if EK then figured out ground assistance at EVERY DESTIONATION, they'd beat the pants off every airline's F experience (currently La Premiere dominates the ground experience by a mile). |
Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37421705)
Plus, if we're being brutally honest - people are not paying a premium for GC vs non-GC.
From an economic standpoint, I doubt EK can justify retrofitting more planes with GC when the premium above their normal F seat isn't there. Add in that GC means cutting down from 8 to 6 seats. STC said in two separate interviews that:
I don’t think moving from six to eight seats makes a difference. Fares are already, on many routes, significantly up from four or five years ago (demonstrating people are willing to pay for a luxe experience). I also doubt a majority of flights had full Fs (paying customers), even before fares rocketed. |
Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37421705)
GC is cool for the first cple of trips, and then you realise just how practical and well-thought-out the original F seats were.
EK and their product team were ahead of the curve back in the day. |
Originally Posted by eminere
(Post 37428850)
Interesting, can I ask what you find deficient with the GC seat?
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Originally Posted by eminere
(Post 37428850)
Interesting, can I ask what you find deficient with the GC seat?
First world problems - but I find A380 seats have less issues. |
Originally Posted by DLATL777
(Post 36795287)
I think that has to be part of why EK stopped installing them at 9 aircraft. it seems almost more of a marketing ploy than a sustainable product, certainly not fleet wide. Honestly the newest refreshed A380 F is plenty good. I often get that on AKL-DXB or SYD-DXB and its fantastic.
Also, which registrations should I look out for on FR24? |
448/449 are always refurbished as they have premium economy.
but the A380 does not have the GC First. there is discussion on another recent thread on the tail numbers - search Auckland in this forum and you should find it EV or EU series. |
Originally Posted by Cypress
(Post 37546746)
How regularly does the newest refreshed A380 F fly between DXB - AKL and vice versa? (Due to fly that in April.)
Also, which registrations should I look out for on FR24? |
Planning to book EK F on the way back to the US from an Africa trip this summer. Ordinarily would return to either JFK or IAD—is it worth going out of my way to do DXB-ORD on the return to experience game-changer F? I’ve done regular 777 F and A380 F multiple times (and have another upcoming EK F trip DEL-DXB-IAD in March where I’ll be on the standard 777 and A380 again), so am inclined to go out of my way a bit for game changer for the novelty.
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Originally Posted by bce1
(Post 37546754)
448/449 are always refurbished as they have premium economy.
but the A380 does not have the GC First. there is discussion on another recent thread on the tail numbers - search Auckland in this forum and you should find it EV or EU series. Cypress |
Originally Posted by CappuccinoAddict
(Post 37561750)
Planning to book EK F on the way back to the US from an Africa trip this summer. Ordinarily would return to either JFK or IAD—is it worth going out of my way to do DXB-ORD on the return to experience game-changer F? I’ve done regular 777 F and A380 F multiple times (and have another upcoming EK F trip DEL-DXB-IAD in March where I’ll be on the standard 777 and A380 again), so am inclined to go out of my way a bit for game changer for the novelty.
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