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sadiqhassan Aug 20, 2023 2:54 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 35507315)
I don’t think new F works for LHR as 6 isn’t enough F seats. There was a brief period during COVID where new F was deployed to LHR but sadly I think that will be the only time LHR sees it unless EK puts it on an A380. Probably the same for SYD too. You can always go to STN.


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 35511910)
If I was in revenue management I’d try and put it in to see if I could charge a significant premium for new F over old F to see if anyone cares!

Agree. During this period EK will offer 92 F class seats a day(!) to/from LHR. EK has demonstrated that people are willing to pay for subpar products. It is not clear if they are willing to pay extra for better products - In the past they charged a premium for suites F early on in the roll-out (and those planes were sold as P/A instead of the regular F/A). I am not sure if this was successful but I wonder if they could do something similar now especially given that these flights are at desirable times.

The Emir Aug 20, 2023 3:09 am


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan (Post 35512499)
Agree. During this period EK will offer 92 F class seats a day(!) to/from LHR. EK has demonstrated that people are willing to pay for subpar products. It is not clear if they are willing to pay extra for better products - In the past they charged a premium for suites F early on in the roll-out (and those planes were sold as P/A instead of the regular F/A). I am not sure if this was successful but I wonder if they could do something similar now especially given that these flights are at desirable times.

I suppose it might depend on whether they believe some of the current destinations can afford to lose the priviledge!

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In terms of 92 seats a day ... does anyone know the required daily onflow from SVO?
(92 seats at current rates or less seats but at indulgent pricing?!)
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DYKWIA Aug 20, 2023 4:10 am


Originally Posted by The Emir (Post 35512053)
Their findings would be:
  • huge demand for miles upgrades
  • large demand for miles bookings
... from the informed frequent-flyer community, plus ...
  • confirmation of their usual strategy (ie: "Why waste it, when we've proven people still book and pay the same prices for the antique 2-3-2 setup compared to the a380?").

If they were to do this, they'd probably introduce a new booking code for the Game Changer suites. No upgrades or awards allowed - or if they are, double the existing rates.

eternaltransit Aug 20, 2023 7:05 am


Originally Posted by The Emir (Post 35512053)
Their findings would be:
  • huge demand for miles upgrades
  • large demand for miles bookings
... from the informed frequent-flyer community, plus ...
  • confirmation of their usual strategy (ie: "Why waste it, when we've proven people still book and pay the same prices for the antique 2-3-2 setup compared to the a380?").

Findings promptly filed in the bin of course, as we all know EK's view on miles :D

CaptainEKAirbus Aug 31, 2023 11:04 pm

DFW gains F, YUL loses F with this change:

EK221 DFW upgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
EK243 YUL downgraded to the 77L, effective Oct 29

UAworldwide Sep 1, 2023 2:16 am

I see that EK is going 4x daily to Cairo, the previously 4x daily afternoon flight is now daily (EK921/EK922). It has pleasant afternoon timings, leaves DXB 12 noon arrives CAI 14:50 and leaves CAI 17:35 arrives back to DXB 22:00

BUT ... it doesn't operate on one day only: 27 OCT 2023, which is of course the day I want to use it.

Anyone know why it doesn't operate on this day only?

ZRHMD11 Sep 6, 2023 8:53 am

New third daily to HKG.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...from-november/

sadiqhassan Sep 6, 2023 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 35545435)
DFW gains F, YUL loses F with this change:

EK221 DFW upgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
EK243 YUL downgraded to the 77L, effective Oct 29

I was surprised that YUL got F to begin with

mecabq Sep 7, 2023 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by UAworldwide (Post 35545638)
I see that EK is going 4x daily to Cairo, the previously 4x daily afternoon flight is now daily (EK921/EK922). It has pleasant afternoon timings, leaves DXB 12 noon arrives CAI 14:50 and leaves CAI 17:35 arrives back to DXB 22:00

BUT ... it doesn't operate on one day only: 27 OCT 2023, which is of course the day I want to use it.

Anyone know why it doesn't operate on this day only?

I guess this thread isn't for flydubai new routes and changes (maybe we should start one, as their route network is fairly dynamic and I suspect many EK flyers don't really want the clutter), but FZ is starting service to a newish airport in Cairo called Sphinx (SPX), in Giza. I had never heard of it.

CaptainEKAirbus Sep 11, 2023 9:25 pm

EK416 SYD upgraded to the 380, effective Nov 4

eminere Sep 12, 2023 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 35572467)
EK416 SYD upgraded to the 380, effective Nov 4

It's a shame this returns to the B777 when I need to fly in June next year.

CaptainEKAirbus Sep 14, 2023 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by eminere (Post 35575250)
It's a shame this returns to the B777 when I need to fly in June next year.

It will continue as an A380 next (northern) summer, it just hasn't been updated yet. Northern summer schedules typically don't get finalized until January of that year.

eminere Sep 15, 2023 12:19 am


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 35582057)
It will continue as an A380 next (northern) summer, it just hasn't been updated yet. Northern summer schedules typically don't get finalized until January of that year.

Amazing! I really hope it stays an A380.

CaptainEKAirbus Oct 6, 2023 10:35 pm

EK336 MNL increases from four to five weekly, effective Nov 1, increases to six weekly effective Nov 20

Overall MNL will be 20 times weekly from Nov 20.

The new flights operate at a slightly different timing, leaving DXB at 1300. The return flights ex-MNL leave at 0325 arriving in DXB at 0900.

agjil Oct 11, 2023 6:17 am

Looks like the equipment change from A380 to B777 on the JFK-MXP route is permanent...
I see B777 being used throughout the whole year in 2024 till the end of schedule.


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