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Old Sep 15, 2017, 1:15 pm
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Saver v flex

Hi guys

I've currently got just over 250k miles which by the end of the year this will be around the 300k mark

I am currently in the process of booking 4 return flights bhx - dxb for next May

So what is going to best to do, buy a saver ticket and chance upgrading when OLCI opens or buy flex tickets and upgrade immediately.
Or buy all the flights with miles?
Also if I buy the flex ticket can I upgrade at time of booking?

Thanks for your help
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by sow40
Hi guys

I've currently got just over 250k miles which by the end of the year this will be around the 300k mark

I am currently in the process of booking 4 return flights bhx - dxb for next May

So what is going to best to do, buy a saver ticket and chance upgrading when OLCI opens or buy flex tickets and upgrade immediately.
Or buy all the flights with miles?
Also if I buy the flex ticket can I upgrade at time of booking?

Thanks for your help
Personally I think the best best value is using skywards miles for upgrades as award ticket redemption is terrible value. That being said, mile upgrade space is not guaranteed so I would get on the phone with an agent and ask if there is space on your flights and then book accordingly in flex then upgrade immediately.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 5:16 pm
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You cannot upgrade Flex at the time of booking, and upgrades are subject to availability, so you may be able to upgrade immediately after booking, or at a later point before OLCI opens, or only at the airport/on-board if you have Silver+ status. If you buy Saver you can only upgrade once OLCI opens or on-board if you have Silver+ status.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 11:31 pm
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If you have flexibility in your booking you can ring and ask what flights currently have upgrades available on a specific date or a day or so either side. If there are any you can purchase the flights there and then and the agent can also process the upgrade on the same phone call.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 12:11 am
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Thanks all.

Daft question but who do I call?
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by sow40
Thanks all.

Daft question but who do I call?
Emirates:

https://www.emirates.com/za/english/...tact-emirates/

Obviously select the country you're in (top right if it doesn't automatically detect it). EK are incredibly good on the phone, calling is not a pain like with some other airlines.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 1:09 pm
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Thanks for this, I called them and found that there are only 3 available upgradeable seats on the flight I want.
Is there anyway of checking online what seats are available for upgrades without me having to ring up and ask?

Thanks
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by sow40
Thanks for this, I called them and found that there are only 3 available upgradeable seats on the flight I want.
Is there anyway of checking online what seats are available for upgrades without me having to ring up and ask?

Thanks
Yes, Experflyer.com will give you the information that you need. There is a monthy fee but also a free trial, I beleive. It is a great resource for many things!
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by sow40
Is there anyway of checking online what seats are available for upgrades without me having to ring up and ask?
For Y to J upgrades do a dummy booking for reward flights. If J Saver Reward flights are available, then so are Y to J upgrades as they come out of the same fare bucket (D).
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 3:26 pm
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Cheers guys but you are talking to an amateur here!! I've logged on to expert flyer and couldn't make head nor tails of it... I've also gone through the rewards booking and can't seem to fathom that either.
Any you can give me more of a so called idiots guide please!!
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 5:42 pm
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Sure, sow40. Expertflyer can be a little hard to understand in the beginning but you will quickly get the hang of it. Basically you choose "Award and Upgrade Availability" from the left menu then enter your Departure city, Arrival City, Date, Airline (EK is Emirates), and then number of seats (4 in your case) and the fare bucket you need (D Bucket for Y to J upgrades) and it spits out a result saying that for instance (I just picked a random day in the month you mentioned) on May 18th EK 40 Departing at 2:20PM has at least 4 seats in that bucket so you would be good to go. Neither of the other non-stops that day to DXB from BHX have enough availability to upgrade 4 people from Y to J. You do the same in reverse on the date you want to come home, assuming you want to upgrade both ways.

You want to look for the column that says "Seats". It will even show you a current seat map if you want so you can see which seats are available. Quite powerful, expertflyer.

Hope that helps!

Last edited by Flaneurs; Sep 18, 2017 at 5:45 pm Reason: Typo and added column info
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 1:43 pm
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ONce again you guys never fail to come up trumps!! I'm all over the expert flyer now.... do I pay any extra costs regards departure tax for upgrades? I.e. If I upgrade is it going to cost me anything other than miles?

Cheers again!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by sow40
ONce again you guys never fail to come up trumps!! I'm all over the expert flyer now.... do I pay any extra costs regards departure tax for upgrades? I.e. If I upgrade is it going to cost me anything other than miles?

Cheers again!!!
Out of the UK only if upgrading from Economy to Business (Y>J), I think 65 or 75 GBP (HelloKittysMum just posted this somewhere IIRC)
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
Out of the UK only if upgrading from Economy to Business (Y>J), I think 65 or 75 GBP (HelloKittysMum just posted this somewhere IIRC)
it was £75 and I was given the choice of pay on the phone or pay at the airport.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
Out of the UK only if upgrading from Economy to Business (Y>J), I think 65 or 75 GBP (HelloKittysMum just posted this somewhere IIRC)
it was £75 and I was given the choice of pay on the phone or pay at the airport.
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