The post specifically mentioned revenue.

Your point that the Flex Plus Y guy contributes more to EK than the Saver in J emphasises how wrong the initial assumption could be. Especially given he/she pays for 4 or 5 of these to get Gold.

I took chinatraderjmr's mention of revenue to be a shorthand for: "who is more commercially valuable to EK" rather than a straight adding up of total fare paid, precisely because it's hard to determine value on such a one-dimensional thing such as fare paid or ticket class.

I don't think both of your positions are mutually exclusive, though - I think chinatraderjmr's point is that he thinks EK knows exactly where the bulk of their good margin and good profit-generating revenue comes from and he believes it's not from people who travel frequently hunting for good value fares, but, I would imagine, from travellers who pay for higher fare class tickets, either frequently in his case, or infrequently (enough to fill the cabins).

I think there's also a flicker of annoyance at people who have found the most cash efficient way to get status and then proceed to feel entitled as a result of that, when many people spend/contribute profits to a larger extent but isn't reflected in the FFP (or indeed, are even members).

However, I think EK has moved to rationalise the FFP with the changes earlier this year to bring status more in line with spend/profits which renders the whole discussion about "who contributes more" moot (as if it was even a thing worth discussing anyway!)

I tend to agree, and his/her comments were about Silvers rather than Golds, so the comparisons to making Gold are skewed somewhat. However, those that do it are just as entitled to the perks as those that book exclusively J of F.

Totally - tier points are tier points, and how you earn them and what you get with them is pretty transparent.

iO is really aimed at different people (some of whom overlap into the frequent flyer category) and has a different set of benefits - nothing more or less than that really, I think.

Just curious: are there also unpublished status' in other ffp? I know only lifetime Senator in the LH Group

Sorry if it is too off topic!

Lots of programmes have them. Off the top of my head:

BA Premier
CX Diamond Plus
SK Pandion
QF Chairman's Lounge
DL 360
AA CK
UA GS (is that even unpublished?)

The level of exclusivity and benefits varies greatly between them all though.

And EY 'Exclusive.'

Hello Ray
Can I ask how much did you spend the year before you got IO
If you don't know, what was you tier miles total for that year?
Thanks

And NZ's Elite Priority One - less than 100 members (out of 2 million +) and they're treated very well from what I understand.

Hi M.K. !
I had a little bit over 300k Tiermiles for the running period and accumulated for the past 5 years 2,1M Tiermiles .

Hi LyingFlat,

compared to the 320 IO from over 10M Skywards Members it's even a lot ;-)\

Appreciate your response
Is the IO you have now is a life time membership
Thanks again pal

it is not a lifetime membership

@M.K.

It's for 2 years and will be reviewed aprx 3 month before ending of this period.

Hi there,

Long time lurker and first post here.

Was wondering how people are doing for life time tier miles with skywards.

The reason I ask is because I'm quite keen on figuring out what it takes to be IO,


Would love it if people could help post their life time tier miles and over how long they accumulated.

Mine is 600k+ over 12 years => majority in y

I think I remember a thread saying that 2 mil lifetime tier is the entry requirement. Any members here have IO experience?

Cheers