lavs in C
#1
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lavs in C
on our recent flight DXB-BKK, seats 6E amd F, my wife went to use the lavs located in the galley between row 4 and 6, only to be turned down by an FA who told her in quite a rude manner: "this is F class, you got to go back to the loo in Biz ( which is at the very end of the aircraft, behind the cocktail bar).
apart from the fact that this TA acted very harsh and disrespectful; is the loo my wife wanted to use dedicated to F or not?
as for me, when flying in F it never occured to me that i should use any other restroom but one of those in front, which are way more comfortable and spacey...
apart from the fact that this TA acted very harsh and disrespectful; is the loo my wife wanted to use dedicated to F or not?
as for me, when flying in F it never occured to me that i should use any other restroom but one of those in front, which are way more comfortable and spacey...
#2
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on our recent flight DXB-BKK, seats 6E amd F, my wife went to use the lavs located in the galley between row 4 and 6, only to be turned down by an FA who told her in quite a rude manner: "this is F class, you got to go back to the loo in Biz ( which is at the very end of the aircraft, behind the cocktail bar).
apart from the fact that this TA acted very harsh and disrespectful; is the loo my wife wanted to use dedicated to F or not?
as for me, when flying in F it never occured to me that i should use any other restroom but one of those in front, which are way more comfortable and spacey...
apart from the fact that this TA acted very harsh and disrespectful; is the loo my wife wanted to use dedicated to F or not?
as for me, when flying in F it never occured to me that i should use any other restroom but one of those in front, which are way more comfortable and spacey...
#3
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Yes the 4 at the back are the J class loo's, they tend to be more "protective" of the front loo for F pax when F is full and the showers are in use. Having said that when I have traveled in F I notice people coming from J all the time and using the front loo. The crew have usually turned a blind eye and are always polite at least when I have seen them. In my view they should tell people to go to the back albeit in a polite way as that loo is clearly intended for F only. Most of the J pax know this and are just trying it on!
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I'd concur with ukdoctor and HavocIOG.
The fact that the two bathrooms can be occupied for prolonged periods (ie whilst the showers are in use) means that the front loo referred to by OP is rightly protected by crew for F class pax only.
The fact that the two bathrooms can be occupied for prolonged periods (ie whilst the showers are in use) means that the front loo referred to by OP is rightly protected by crew for F class pax only.
#5
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I think that the lab should be closed off to J passengers when the F load is greater than 60%. If not, and when a shower spa is free, J passengers should be able to use it. No F passenger would use it when a shower spa is available.
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The crew was quickly corrected by someone else, clearly I don't look like I belong!
#8
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I think subject2load is correct. On one occasion when both showers were in use I got up to go to the loo at the back of the cabin just as a pax from J came through the curtain and into the loo. A crew member also saw this and suggested I return to my seat saying that she would lock the loo when the occupant left and come and fetch me which she did.
The occupied/vacant signs in J clearly indicate that the loos are at the back of the cabin while those in F indicate the showers at the front and the loo at the back of the cabin. I think that HavocIOG is spot on and that some (probably regular) J pax are just trying it on. I suppose for most of the time this doesn't really impact on passengers in F although perhaps some may consider that the extra which they pay entitles them to ready access to "facilities" without having to queue unnecessarily.
The occupied/vacant signs in J clearly indicate that the loos are at the back of the cabin while those in F indicate the showers at the front and the loo at the back of the cabin. I think that HavocIOG is spot on and that some (probably regular) J pax are just trying it on. I suppose for most of the time this doesn't really impact on passengers in F although perhaps some may consider that the extra which they pay entitles them to ready access to "facilities" without having to queue unnecessarily.
#9
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The toilets in front of the curtain are not for those in business class ; in fact, iirc, the illuminated signs in the cabin indicating whether toilets are free or not also only show the availability of those at the rear of the cabin
In what way was the cabin crew member rude, or was he/she just direct?
In what way was the cabin crew member rude, or was he/she just direct?
#10
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Cabin crew keep this toilettes locked for F passengers. When they see a F passenger going back to use it they open the latch with a pen. Few years ago a crew member explained they do this to ward off J passengers from using it as it keeps showing as occupied.
Once while in the galley chatting to the purser, I saw a J passenger told off for queuing wanting to use it - in a commanding/strict voice.
Once while in the galley chatting to the purser, I saw a J passenger told off for queuing wanting to use it - in a commanding/strict voice.
#11
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Yes have experienced this in F.
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I think F toilets for F, ad J for J. I don't see why anyone in J feels they should be able to use F facilities, whether that's the toilets, bar, food etc. You pay for F, you get F facilities; you pay for J, you get J facilities.
... and to confirm, this is from the perspective of a J flier.
#15
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To be fair I don't see signs in the lav which mentions "to be used exclusively for F class passengers." I have been in the J class on A380 for 5 times and never saw such a sign indicating J-class lav are located at the back of the plane...... So to be scolded by the crew when, unknowingly, you try to use the lav in the front is just unethical.