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Hi guys! here I am again. So i have a question again about my flight. My ticket was booked by a travel agent. I paid for business class. Yesterday they sent me the itinerary. And checked it in emirates website using my booking reference found in my itinerary. What got me worried was the website shows im flying in economy class. and I immediately called to the travel agency and they explained that I dont have to worry. They explained that in my ticket it says there Booking code: B# seats:1 and that means that im flying business class. They even showed me other people who booked their flights through them and in their ticket was Booking code: T and that means they flew in economy. Can someone confirm this?
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22753340)
Hi guys! here I am again. So i have a question again about my flight. My ticket was booked by a travel agent. I paid for business class. Yesterday they sent me the itinerary. And checked it in emirates website using my booking reference found in my itinerary. What got me worried was the website shows im flying in economy class. and I immediately called to the travel agency and they explained that I dont have to worry. They explained that in my ticket it says there Booking code: B# seats:1 and that means that im flying business class. They even showed me other people who booked their flights through them and in their ticket was Booking code: T and that means they flew in economy. Can someone confirm this?
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22753340)
...there Booking code: B# seats:1 and that means that im flying business class...
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I suspect that there is some issue here. I have booked tickets on EK via travel agents and It has always shown up as the right class.
I suspect that there is an error somewhere and the travel agent has booked the highest fare Economy ticket while the OP had wanted a Business ticket. |
B is not even a 'high' economy booking code. Full-fare is Y, followed by E,R,W,M,B... it's around the middle.
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I immediately went back to their office the moment I saw your posts but they insisted that my ticket is business class. What do I do? They said in their system it is indeed business class. Maybe, it really it is and im just over reacting. I mean my mom knows that travel agent for a long time now and she's a regular costumer to him. should i contact emirates via email? I hope he's not lying about this. anyway my flight is set in the middle of july so i still have time.
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What's the meaning of this Marriage Indicator: 02 I found that in my ticket.
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22755381)
What's the meaning of this Marriage Indicator: 02 I found that in my ticket.
Introduction Married Segment Logic allows participating airlines to control inventory on a trip or related segment basis. When air segments are booked, a marriage is established by the airlines between two or more segments, requiring them to be processed as a unit. When air segments are booked, if the airlines chooses to marry the segments, marriage indicators are appended to the segments to identify them as a single unit: Marriage Indicator Explanation J Married segment indicator 01-99 Two-digit marriage number Example - Married Indicators 1 NW1062Y 15SEP MO MCIMSP HK1 400P 516P/O J01 E 2 NW 355Y 15SEP MO MSPSFO HK1 625P 831P/X J01 E The two-digit number is assigned sequentially as marriages are booked. This number identifies segments that are married to each other. Since segments might not be sold in order, it is possible to have numbers that are not sequential while updating the PNR. Upon End Transaction (ET) the marriages are renumbered sequentially. When the Worldspan Direct Access link is not available, airlines advise via teletype messages of new or changed married segments. Worldspan® places the PNRs involved on Q102 category 3. This queue is reserved for additions, changes and/or deletions to married segments. If individually sold segments are not married, the airlines marries the segments after ET. If this occurs, the PNR is queued to Q102 category 3. If a claim PNR airline participant also participates in married segment logic, marriage indicators are returned in the transfer claim responses. The PNR is updated to reflect the indicators once it is created in Worldspan. If a waitlist segment clears and the cleared segment is replacing one or more segments in a marriage, the following cancel/change segment status entry must be used: X2#.1HK. This entry notifies the airlines you are replacing the married segment with a cleared waitlisted segment. Once the entry is made, the airline remarries the remaining segments and assigns the next available indicator or deletes the marriage and removes the indicators from the PNR. If the airline remarries the segment, the next available marriage indicator is assigned. Upon ET all married segments are renumbered sequentially. top of page Display Married Segments The two options listed in the table below displays Married Segments. Explanation Entry Displays all marriages in a PNR *IJ Displays all marriages for a specific airline in a PNR *IJ-CC (CC = airline code) The error response NO MARRIED SEGMENTS displays if no Married Segments exist in the PNR or the requested airline is not a Married Segment participant. When a Married Segment is added to or canceled from a PNR, history includes the Married Segment indicator. NOTE: NW can manually create or delete a marriage which shows in history with the following history codes: NJ - New Married Segment DJ - Delete Married Segment Any existing Married Segment that is being married to or deleted from contains the history code of: EJ - Existing Married Segment top of page Documentation Restrictions Segment select will not be allowed on part of a marriage when issuing a ticket. When issuing other documents like Itinerary/Invoice and credit memos, the system will not try to price the segment that is being separated from the Marriage. The @B option must be included in the entry or the following error response will be displayed. MARRIED SEGMENT 1 - USE @B TO PRINT AIRFARE When adding the NU option to an EZI entry, the fare stored in the Ticketing Record is shipped to the interface system. If segment selection of a portion of a Married Segment is included in the entry, the same error response above will be displayed. Married Segment restrictions will not apply to MCO documentation since a @B option must always be included. EZP, EZD, EZN, and EZB will not be affected by Married Segment Logic. 4A entries will not be affected by Married Segment Logic. top of page History of Married Segments There are several history codes related to Married Segments: NJ - New Married Segment DJ - Deleted/Canceled Married Segment EJ - Existing Married Segment When a Married Segment is added to or canceled from a PNR the history includes the Married Segment Indicator. XS NW459Y 15AUG MSPMEM HK1 445P 647P J01 AS NW515Y 15AUG MSPMEM HK1 450P 651P J01 Participating airlines may create or modify a marriage via a teletype message at anytime without taking any inventory type action on the segment. A host airline can manually create or delete a marriage that shows in history with the following history codes. NJ NW1576Y 23FEB SU MCIDTW HK1 435P 720P/O J01 DJ NW1576Y 23FEB SU MCIDTW HK1 435P 720P/O J01 History Codes Explanation NJ New Married Segment DJ Delete a Married Segment Any existing Married Segments that the segment is being married to or deleted from contains the history code of EJ. NJ NW 1527Y 15AUG FR MSNMSP HK1 245P 247P J01 EJ NW 459Y 15AUG FR MSPMEM HK1 445P 647P J01 EJ NW 661Y 15AUG FR MEMPHX HK1 750P 922P J01 History Codes Explanation EJ Existing Married Segment Below is an example of how history will appear after a partial cancellation. Segment three of this itinerary was canceled and the PNR ended. 1 AA 61Q 30NOV SU MCODFW SS2 754A 955A/O $ 2 AA 395Q 30NOV SU DFWSEA SS2 1050A 128P/O $ 3 NW 958H 05DEC FR MEMMCO SS2 825P 1120P/X E Notice that there is no longer a marriage indicator on NW958. Entry: *HF R-1P P/ CKC SU DB 1819Z/28JUL97 XS NW 988H 05DEC SEAMEM HK2 100P 700P J01 E DJ NW 958H 05DEC MEMMCO HK2 825P 1120P J01 E R-P/ -CR- CKC/1P SU dB 28JUL97 1853Z FEF78D *** AS AA 61Q 30NOV MCODFW SS2 754A 955A $ AS AA 395Q 30NOV DFWSEA SS2 1050A 128P $ AS NW 988H 05DEC SEAMEM SS2 100P 700P J01 E AS NW 958H 05DEC MEMMCO SS2 825P 1120P J01 E RP/ -CR- CKC/1P SU dB 28JUL97 1819Z FEF78D *** History indicates that NW988 was completely canceled, which divorced the two NW segments. Therefore, the history code of DJ for NW958 appears in history to account for the removal of the J01 marriage indicator from that segment. History also updates with any marriages or divorces that are initiated by the airline. Guidelines: Each airline is given the opportunity to customize the program to their needs. Therefore, the policy for each airline should be access for detailed processing information. Since segments can be added to a PNR in any order, the marriage numbers may not appear sequentially; upon End Transaction (ET) the marriages are renumbered. Ticketing/Pricing is inhibited if only a portion of the marriage is selected. Queue 102, category 3 is used for airline updates to the married segments. top of page Married Segment Indicators Indicators are appended to two or more itinerary segments that are to be treated as a single unit. A two digit numeric follows the J (Marriage Indicator) to indicate the number of the marriage in the PNR. Up to 99 marriages can appear in a PNR. Indicators Explanation J Married (joined) Segment Indicator 01 Marriage number, a two digit numeric up to 99 Example - Married Segment Indicators 1 AA 61Q 30NOV SU MCODFW SS2 754A 955A/O $ 2 AA 395Q 30NOV SU DFWSEA SS2 1050A 128P/O $ 3 NW 988H 05DEC FR SEAMEM SS2 100P 700P/O J01 E 4 NW 958H 05DEC FR MEMMCO SS2 825P 1120P/X J01 E In the above itinerary, the J represents a marriage and the 01 indicates the marriage number. Therefore, segments 3 and 4 are processed as a unit and can be inhibited from being canceled separately. top of page Married Segment Logic Guidelines The guidelines for Married Segment Logic includes: Segments sold individually are not married, but the airline can marry the segment after End Transaction. In this case, the PNR is queued to Q102/C3. Waitlisted and confirmed segments can be married, at the airlines discretion. If more than 99 marriages have been added or deleted in the same transaction, a warning message appears. Participating airlines can create or modify marriages at any time without changing the status of the segment. Married Segments between different airlines are not be supported. The User Update Table provides a list of all airlines participating in Married Segment Logic. The entry to see this table is KRM*. Married Segment Logic does not apply to Code Share Flights. Married Segment Logic does not apply to Worldspan WorldGroup® segments. top of page Married Segment Queue Processing Participating airlines may send a message to establish a new marriage or delete an existing marriage. Next, Worldspan places the PNR on the customers Q102/C3. This queue is reserved for additions, changes/deletions to Married Segments. top of page Pricing Married Segments Segment select for pricing, including agent assisted, Low Fare Finder, Power and SecuRate pricing is allowed when a portion of a marriage is selected. Any segment select pricing entry on a Married Segment produces a price display with an advisory message indicating the display is for informational purposes only and not valid for storing or ticketing. Segment select pricing on Married Segments does not apply to entries used to rebook, store fares or issue tickets. When adding the #NU (no update - interface only) option to an EZI entry, the fare stored in the Ticket Record is sent to the interface system. If segment selection of a portion of a Married Segment is included in the entry, the following error response is displayed: MARRIED SEGMENT 1 - SEGMENT SELECT NOT ALLOWED Married Segment restrictions does not apply to MCO documentation since @B option must always be included EZP, EZD, EZN and EZB is not affected by Married Segment logic. top of page |
Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22755311)
I immediately went back to their office the moment I saw your posts but they insisted that my ticket is business class. What do I do? They said in their system it is indeed business class. Maybe, it really it is and im just over reacting. I mean my mom knows that travel agent for a long time now and she's a regular costumer to him. should i contact emirates via email? I hope he's not lying about this. anyway my flight is set in the middle of july so i still have time.
T is also economy, so someone that was booked in T being in economy proves nothing. EK's business class codes are O,I,D,C and J If EK confirms that you are in economy, then you need to go back to the travel agent and either (a) get the agent to rebook properly in requested cabin or (b) cancel with the agent and possibly ( if agent declines to give full refund ) dispute the charge with the credit card company Hopefully it is an innocent screw up by the agent Was the price quoted by the agent in line with a business class fare? |
Originally Posted by smith80678
(Post 22755594)
Married Segments" have to do with inventory on .......
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22755947)
so what does that mean? :confused::confused::confused:
e.g. Passenger wishes to travel LGW-DXB-SIN in O class Checking LGW-DXB, there may be no O class available but when checking LGW-SIN, the system may show O class available in conjunction with the onward flight to SIN. That O class availability LGW-DXB is maried to the DXB-SIN sector If then wanting to change the DXB-SIN sector to a later date, this may not be possible since the O class on LGW-DXB is reliant on the DXB-SIN booking |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22755939)
Was the price quoted by the agent in line with a business class fare?
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22755986)
Yup. he even said that my seat will be in the last row of the business class cabin because according to him its the cheapest and he sort of have a discount or something with the emirates. I already sent an email to emirates and waiting for their response. I dont wanna go back to the travel agent for the 4th time, they might think that im being paranoid since they already explained everything to me many times. They said that i dont have to worry. Do you know any situation like mine?
Just pick up the phone, speak to Emirates and check with Emirates. If the agent states it is economy, then get back to the TA and get the ticket cancelled andthen rebook directly with EK Was there a reason to use a TA? |
I learned that "B" is a Saver fare. Argghh! i dont know who am I supposed to believe. I mean, my mom paid 2,000EUR. that couldn't be a saver fare for economy. Maybe they will upgrade it before my flight? Maybe they have a connection with emirates or something, or maybe they have some sort of understanding. :( :(
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756071)
I learned that "B" is a Saver fare. Argghh! i dont know who am I supposed to believe. I mean, my mom paid 2,000EUR. that couldn't be a saver fare for economy. Maybe they will upgrade it before my flight? Maybe they have a connection with emirates or something, or maybe they have some sort of understanding. :( :(
Take the information from website and give the agent the options of refunding the entire amount paid or rebooking in a proper business class fare basis ( any of O,I,D,C or J are valid ) What is the journey? How much is EK charging directly for a business class ticket? |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756055)
Was there a reason to use a TA?
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756100)
What is the journey? How much is EK charging directly for a business class ticket?
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756107)
well, my mom is a regular customer to this guy, who owns a money remittance center and he also books flights. and this guy have some, i dont know how to call them, maybe staff that work in a travel agency. Neither of my parent have credit card or visa card they dont like it and we dont fly that much only once in every let say 2-3 years.
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756129)
Larnaca-Dubai-Manila return. He charged me (my mom actually) 2,000EUR.
Checking online, the lowest EK business class fare (I class) seems to be EUR3048 There are consolidators that can have special fares however a business class special fare would still be booked in business class It looks to me that the agent is up to something iffy to me |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756130)
This sounds remarkably dodgy to me and I would be insisting on the money back from the agent. I can understand not liking credit cards, but there are certain times when I would only use them - such as booking flights
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756146)
This seems quite a bit lower than EK's published fare . Is your current fare basis showing as BLE1YCY1 ?
Checking online, the lowest EK business class fare (I class) seems to be EUR3048 There are consolidators that can have special fares however a business class special fare would still be booked in business class It looks to me that the agent is up to something iffy to me |
Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756154)
I think Im just gonna wait for emirates' response to my e-mail. Once they confirmed that the ticket issued by this guy was indeed economy and not business, I'm gonna print it out and show to him so that he wouldn't think that i am just over reacting.
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756170)
y.
Thats one of the reasons why I booked my flight to him because he has discount with emirates. I remembered he also booked my brothers' flight a year ago business class charging him 500EUR only. |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756172)
If you go to the EK website and go to manage booking, you may be able to print out a copy of the electronic ticket details which will provide what you need
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756189)
an agent trying to do things such as sell miles to upgrade bookings
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756200)
that is exactly what i am going to do. last time i went there i just told him what i saw on EK website maybe he thought I misinterpret it. he said he already booked over 500+ flights to others and theres no way he made a mistake. but the thing is, i am the only one who booked business class and the rest was economy.
Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756200)
so that means my ticket is indeed an economy and when my flight is near he will upgrade it or something? is that what you are trying to say?
The nature of the information provided does make it seem possible that such practice may be intended In the current situation it seems clear that what yoiu have is an economy ticket which is not what you paid for. There isn't a need to make the posts harder to read by using Bold btw |
Also on your eticket you can check how much he paid for the ticket against what he charged you. Make sure that matches as it does sound fishy, like he sold you an economy class ticket, charged you a little more, and will use miles to upgrade you to business class.
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756283)
In the current situation it seems clear that what yoiu have is an economy ticket which is not what you paid for. There isn't a need to make the posts harder to read by using Bold btw |
Originally Posted by Emirates202
(Post 22756305)
Also on your eticket you can check how much he paid for the ticket against what he charged you. Make sure that matches as it does sound fishy, like he sold you an economy class ticket, charged you a little more, and will use miles to upgrade you to business class.
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756424)
The price or amount is not indicated on the itinerary he gave me. Is there any other way I can check it?
go to emirates.com and go to manage existing booking retrieve the booking information. On the webpage there may be a link to print itinery/receipt/eticket . If there is, go there and print it out. This will either have the actual fare paid if a normal published ticket or indicate IT or BT otherwise in the fare box Take this ticket to agent and get the money back or properly rebooked into business |
What is e-ticket? It says there that if the TA didnt issue an e-ticket that means I havent fully paid the amount which I already did. My booking is also confirmed. Im consused. If my booking was already confirmed I should have gotten an eticket. Right?
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756544)
What is e-ticket? It says there that if the TA didnt issue an e-ticket that means I havent fully paid the amount which I already did. My booking is also confirmed. Im consused. If my booking was already confirmed I should have gotten an eticket. Right?
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You said in you first post that you checked it on the emirates website using your booking reference. Do the same thing, and after you enter your booking reference there will be a tab on the side that says- eticket status, and if it says confirmed, click view and it will show your eticket. At the bottom of the page, it will show the amount paid for the ticket.
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and email probably isn't the best way to contact them. I would just give them a call.
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Originally Posted by Emirates202
(Post 22756613)
You said in you first post that you checked it on the emirates website using your booking reference. Do the same thing, and after you enter your booking reference there will be a tab on the side that says- eticket status, and if it says confirmed, click view and it will show your eticket. At the bottom of the page, it will show the amount paid for the ticket.
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Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756658)
I did what you said but in the e-ticket box the is a question mark. What does that mean? And in the status box below it said confirmed.
Confirmed just means that you are booked on the flight and that you are not waitlisted or on request. The word confirmed doesn't mean anything of relevence to this |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756673)
It sounds like the ticket has not been issued. It really seems like it is time to pick up a telephone and call Emirates
Confirmed just means that you are booked on the flight and that you are not waitlisted or on request. The word confirmed doesn't mean anything of relevence to this |
Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756716)
Last question, since the ticket has not been issued yet does that mean the TA can change the class? Btw, thank you very much for helping. I really appreciate you spending ur time helping me.
This whole thing seems very fishy and I would be just trying to get my money back from the agent to be honest The agent is either completely incompetant in not knowing that B is economy class or deliberately doing something iffy |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 22756729)
the agent should be able to properly rebook it and then insist that he tickets it immediately
This whole thing seems very fishy and I would be just trying to get my money back from the agent to be honest The agent is either completely incompetant in not knowing that B is economy class or deliberately doing something iffy |
Originally Posted by thisismejerome
(Post 22756760)
Maybe he just gave me this ticket to shut me up. ( Did i say that correctly?) Because i have been nagging ( in a nice way if that even makes sense :D ) him for a week now about my ticket eventhough my actual flight is not until mid of july. Is it wrong to be excited? :D
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