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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 6:00 pm
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First class vs Business class

It is on my bucket list to do a first class flight somewhere one day. I've been lucky enough to get an upgrade to business on a flight AKL-SYD on the A380 It was great, loved every minute of it.

But my question is, is it really worth the extra money to fly in first class. Have done a couple of long haul biz flights on NZ and SQ and it is without a doubt a much nicer way to travel. To be honest though, I'm hard pressed to justify the cost from economy to business most of the time. Having said that, I just dont think I could fly Air NZ economy long haul again, hence my next trip is with emirates.
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 7:25 pm
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Not sure why you're asking (or what you're asking, for that matter). Seems you've already decided to fly first, if it's on your bucket list. As for "is it worth it, I doubt comments here convince you to take it off the bucket list. They"ll probably just confirm what you've already decided. Book it.


Update... Just upgraded myself to F (cash) on CPT-DXB-AKL flights...

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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Wan1dap
Book it.
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Susiew237
It is on my bucket list to do a first class flight somewhere one day. I've been lucky enough to get an upgrade to business on a flight AKL-SYD on the A380 It was great, loved every minute of it.

But my question is, is it really worth the extra money to fly in first class. Have done a couple of long haul biz flights on NZ and SQ and it is without a doubt a much nicer way to travel. To be honest though, I'm hard pressed to justify the cost from economy to business most of the time. Having said that, I just dont think I could fly Air NZ economy long haul again, hence my next trip is with emirates.
It's all relative to what you can afford. For me suites are far better than business class on ek but then they are expensive.

Depending on the route it's worth it!
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:53 pm
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If you are booking F at least book it on a A380 so that you can have the full F experience . You also don't have to worry about getting the old style seats either.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ukdoctor
If you are booking F at least book it on a A380 so that you can have the full F experience . You also don't have to worry about getting the old style seats either.
This is true.

Get the shower time in.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 6:17 am
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The Emirates A380 suite, is a must do. I'm not sure how much longer it will be viable to put a shower in a non-private plane for.

Personally I can't see many more in the future due to the cost to transport the water around and also the amount of space the shower rooms take up.

It seems to be working for Emirates though, they offer a slightly smaller First Class cabin than their key competitors, but offer the shower. Personally I think the Suite is large enough and like the shower, however I would like to try the double bed on Singapore Airlines if you travel with a partner in the middle cabins ;-)

I've also had some of the best wine in Emirates First (think the LHR route especially).
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jmeselby
The Emirates A380 suite, is a must do. I'm not sure how much longer it will be viable to put a shower in a non-private plane for.

Personally I can't see many more in the future due to the cost to transport the water around and also the amount of space the shower rooms take up.

It seems to be working for Emirates though, they offer a slightly smaller First Class cabin than their key competitors, but offer the shower. Personally I think the Suite is large enough and like the shower, however I would like to try the double bed on Singapore Airlines if you travel with a partner in the middle cabins ;-)

I've also had some of the best wine in Emirates First (think the LHR route especially).
Don't think your plans for the mile high club would work though.Isn't the privacy screen on SQ similar to EK.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ukdoctor
Don't think your plans for the mile high club would work though.Isn't the privacy screen on SQ similar to EK.
The shower room is plenty big enough....
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
The shower room is plenty big enough....
And 'officially' has a max occupancy of 2 pax
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 11:30 pm
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And 'officially' has a max occupancy of 2 pax
Haha!

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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Susiew237
But my question is, is it really worth the extra money to fly in first class. Have done a couple of long haul biz flights on NZ and SQ and it is without a doubt a much nicer way to travel. To be honest though, I'm hard pressed to justify the cost from economy to business most of the time. Having said that, I just dont think I could fly Air NZ economy long haul again, hence my next trip is with emirates.
I just booked for me and my wife first class flights with EK (FRA-DXB-PER-DXB-FRA) end of September/end of October.
Hence, it seemed to me also a bargain. (Euro 4.700 for one person for the 4 flight segments).
It will be our first time in first class with EK. (Have had some upgrades from Biz to First with LH in the past).
I will let you know our experiences.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by ukdoctor
If you are booking F at least book it on a A380 so that you can have the full F experience . You also don't have to worry about getting the old style seats either.
I disagree with this - except for the shower, the F product on the 777 is much nicer.

Originally Posted by Susiew237
It is on my bucket list to do a first class flight somewhere one day. I've been lucky enough to get an upgrade to business on a flight AKL-SYD on the A380 It was great, loved every minute of it.

But my question is, is it really worth the extra money to fly in first class. Have done a couple of long haul biz flights on NZ and SQ and it is without a doubt a much nicer way to travel. To be honest though, I'm hard pressed to justify the cost from economy to business most of the time. Having said that, I just dont think I could fly Air NZ economy long haul again, hence my next trip is with emirates.
The differentiator between F and J is not just the hard product, but the soft product. And so, whether it is worth it, depends on the value you get out of it - ie if the service is fantastic it will seem more worth it than if the cabin is full and service is terrible.

One of my most memorable EK flights was from MEL-DXB as the only passenger in F, and a couple of years flying EK F for the first time to MLE, when the service was very good.

But yea, on its best day, EK F is miles ahead of EK J, and the price difference is not always what you would think it is.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by redwings
I just booked for me and my wife first class flights with EK (FRA-DXB-PER-DXB-FRA) end of September/end of October.
Hence, it seemed to me also a bargain. (Euro 4.700 for one person for the 4 flight segments).
It will be our first time in first class with EK. (Have had some upgrades from Biz to First with LH in the past).
I will let you know our experiences.
€4700 for F for this itinerary is a steal. I've seen J fares which are higher than this. Usually this sells for over 7-8k euros in F

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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 2:57 am
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4700 for F for this itinerary is a steal.
is it Companion Fare?
But still 4700EUR is cheaper, the lowest I've seen is 5300EUR per person.
I've also seen J for 3650EUR.
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