Pet as checked baggage
Apr 9, 2013 | 8:44 am
#1
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Pet as checked baggage
Heading back to the US soon. I want to take my dog with me as additional checked baggage.
Planning on a KWI-DXB-JFK. KWI to DXB is usually a 777, and from DXB-JFK is the 380 if I am correct.
Anyway, has anyone have any experience transiting through DXB with a dog as checked baggage in the cargo hold?
It seems as my only options from KWI-JFK with a dog would be either EK or QR. I am leaning towards QR since I am gold with them and the majority of my miles with them as well, but looking at all my options.
Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks
Planning on a KWI-DXB-JFK. KWI to DXB is usually a 777, and from DXB-JFK is the 380 if I am correct.
Anyway, has anyone have any experience transiting through DXB with a dog as checked baggage in the cargo hold?
It seems as my only options from KWI-JFK with a dog would be either EK or QR. I am leaning towards QR since I am gold with them and the majority of my miles with them as well, but looking at all my options.
Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks
Apr 9, 2013 | 12:31 pm
#2
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Have no idea but when I have seen pets being shipped at Heathrow airport they have to be specially shipped. I wouldn't have thought it could count as you luggage as it requires additional handling and paperwork. Is this a serious question?
Apr 9, 2013 | 1:30 pm
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The image of you trying to contain Fido by sitting on a suitcase is a good one though...!
The image of you trying to contain Fido by sitting on a suitcase is a good one though...!
Apr 9, 2013 | 3:26 pm
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Pets
Pets are not permitted in the cabin, with the exception of falcons between Dubai and certain destinations in Pakistan. Depending on the individual circumstances, pets must be carried either as cargo, or as checked baggage in the hold, and may be subject to excess baggage charges.
Please contact Emirates well before your flight to confirm any required procedures (such as permits, tests, vaccinations, etc) to allow your pet to travel you must complete these before Emirates can make final arrangements for your pet. Note that this process can take a long time, especially in complex cases. Once complete, please allow one week to submit your paperwork to Emirates ahead of your flight.
Apr 9, 2013 | 4:40 pm
#7
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I have carried a dog in the hold on a flight to DXB (no connections.) It was a lot of hassle and in the end we just found a TA that had experience and told us what to do. Made it a lot simpler.
Apr 9, 2013 | 5:30 pm
#8
Join Date: Dec 2012
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from the EK website
Pets
Pets are not permitted in the cabin, with the exception of falcons between Dubai and certain destinations in Pakistan. Depending on the individual circumstances, pets must be carried either as cargo, or as checked baggage in the hold, and may be subject to excess baggage charges.
Please contact Emirates well before your flight to confirm any required procedures (such as permits, tests, vaccinations, etc) to allow your pet to travel – you must complete these before Emirates can make final arrangements for your pet. Note that this process can take a long time, especially in complex cases. Once complete, please allow one week to submit your paperwork to Emirates ahead of your flight.
Pets
Pets are not permitted in the cabin, with the exception of falcons between Dubai and certain destinations in Pakistan. Depending on the individual circumstances, pets must be carried either as cargo, or as checked baggage in the hold, and may be subject to excess baggage charges.
Please contact Emirates well before your flight to confirm any required procedures (such as permits, tests, vaccinations, etc) to allow your pet to travel – you must complete these before Emirates can make final arrangements for your pet. Note that this process can take a long time, especially in complex cases. Once complete, please allow one week to submit your paperwork to Emirates ahead of your flight.
From the Emirates site.
Carriage of Animals
Additional information on the Carriage of Animals can be found in the Cargo and Mail Handling Manual.
Live animals shall be contained in leak proof crates or stalls, durable enough for the weight and characteristics of the animals, in conformance with the design and structure specification of the (IATA) Live Animal Regulations.
The preparation for dispatch, handling, animal health and hygiene, feeding and watering, general care and loading according to the International Air Transport Association (IATA) Live Animals Regulations.
Refer to the current IATA Live Animals & IATA Dangerous Goods Regulation Manual for local government regulations and loading compatibility.
For information, contact Cargo Hub Operations, Dubai. SITA: DXBFOEK. Telephone: (+9714) 2163360/61-69.
Additional information on the Carriage of Animals can be found in the Cargo and Mail Handling Manual.
Live animals shall be contained in leak proof crates or stalls, durable enough for the weight and characteristics of the animals, in conformance with the design and structure specification of the (IATA) Live Animal Regulations.
The preparation for dispatch, handling, animal health and hygiene, feeding and watering, general care and loading according to the International Air Transport Association (IATA) Live Animals Regulations.
Refer to the current IATA Live Animals & IATA Dangerous Goods Regulation Manual for local government regulations and loading compatibility.
For information, contact Cargo Hub Operations, Dubai. SITA: DXBFOEK. Telephone: (+9714) 2163360/61-69.
Also
Domestic Pets (PET)
Domestic Pets (PET)
Container shall:
be constructed of wood, metal, plastic or similar material
be leak-proof, escape proof and the doors shall fasten securely
kennel door shall be constructed of welded or cast metal. Plastic or top-opening
doors are not permitted
be large enough for the animal to stand, sit and lie down comfortably in a natural
manner
have separate food and watering dishes securely attached inside the kennel so that
if necessary the animal may be fed and watered without opening the container
be clean, with no offensive odors and contain absorbent material or litter, the use of
straw or wood shavings is not permitted
be adequately ventilated. The total ventilation areas shall be a minimum of 16 % of
the total surface area, including the doors and three remaining sides
have all openings nose and paw proof and that no surface or edge which can be
gnawed or scratched
not be collapsible or foldable
be marked durably on the outside of the container with the full name, address and
contact 24– hour telephone number
be marked with the scientific and common name of the animal(s) and quantity of
each animal contained within the container as shown on the shipper’s certification
• have written indication with food and watering instructions, the last time the animal
was offered food and water along with a supply of packaged food attached to the outside of the container or attached written instructions from an accredited veterinarian to not feed the or water the animal. The animal shall have been offered food and water at least 4 hours before the animal(s) are accepted for carriage
be labeled with at least one IATA “Live Animals” label (or imprinted) properly completed, to each animal container on all four sides (whenever possible)
be labeled with “This Way Up” labels on all four sides of the container (whenever possible). Labels may be imprinted on the container.
Prior to acceptance of Live Animal shipments, an IATA format ’Live Animals Acceptance Check List’ shall be used and fully completed (refer IATA LAR 10.1.1 and 10.2), to establish that:
The shipment fully complies with IATA Live Animals Regulations Governmental, and other control agencies requirements are met
5.3.15.6 Prohibited Live Animals
Cargo will not accept the following live animals for carriage due to animal suffering from respiratory problems, the Embargo does not apply to cross breeds.
Snub nosed dog breeds
American Staffordshire Terrier Boston Terrier
Boxer
Brussels Griffin
Bulldog
Bull Terrier Chow Chow
Dutch Pug
English Bulldog
English Toy Spaniel
French Bulldog
Japanese Chin
Japanese Pug
Japanese Spaniel (Japanese Chin)
Lhasa Apso Pekingese Shar-peis Shih
EK will not accept for carriage all aggressive dog breeds:
All Bulldog breeds American Pit Bull
Japanese Tosas Pit Bull Terriers
Perro de Presa Canario or Presa Canario or cross breeds with extract of these breeds
U.A.E Import Prohibited Breeds or types of breeds
Saluki, Greyhound, Wolf Dog Hybrid (Any dog mixed with a wolf)
Cargo will not accept any live animals 1covered under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) as detailed in Appendix I (Refer 6.2 IATA Live Animals Regulations).
EK will not accept any live animals transferred from other carriers.
U.A.E Restrictions
The importation of all live animals should be by air cargo and not under checked baggage, and requires special permission from the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries for importation into the U.A.E.
To this end, shippers of live animals not being in possession of said authority from the relevant Ministry, the shipper will be liable for the repatriation and costs of such animals to the originating station.
Reservations
Reservations for live animals shall be made 4 days in advance of flight departure. Confirmation shall have been received from the consignee prior to the booking being confirmed. No un-booked AVI shipments shall be accepted.
EK will not accept or transfer live animals shipments from/to other carriers.
Live animals may not be consolidated with other goods, but a consolidated shipment may be wholly composed of live animals.
Domestic Pets (PET)
Container shall:
be constructed of wood, metal, plastic or similar material
be leak-proof, escape proof and the doors shall fasten securely
kennel door shall be constructed of welded or cast metal. Plastic or top-opening
doors are not permitted
be large enough for the animal to stand, sit and lie down comfortably in a natural
manner
have separate food and watering dishes securely attached inside the kennel so that
if necessary the animal may be fed and watered without opening the container
be clean, with no offensive odors and contain absorbent material or litter, the use of
straw or wood shavings is not permitted
be adequately ventilated. The total ventilation areas shall be a minimum of 16 % of
the total surface area, including the doors and three remaining sides
have all openings nose and paw proof and that no surface or edge which can be
gnawed or scratched
not be collapsible or foldable
be marked durably on the outside of the container with the full name, address and
contact 24– hour telephone number
be marked with the scientific and common name of the animal(s) and quantity of
each animal contained within the container as shown on the shipper’s certification
• have written indication with food and watering instructions, the last time the animal
was offered food and water along with a supply of packaged food attached to the outside of the container or attached written instructions from an accredited veterinarian to not feed the or water the animal. The animal shall have been offered food and water at least 4 hours before the animal(s) are accepted for carriage
be labeled with at least one IATA “Live Animals” label (or imprinted) properly completed, to each animal container on all four sides (whenever possible)
be labeled with “This Way Up” labels on all four sides of the container (whenever possible). Labels may be imprinted on the container.
Prior to acceptance of Live Animal shipments, an IATA format ’Live Animals Acceptance Check List’ shall be used and fully completed (refer IATA LAR 10.1.1 and 10.2), to establish that:
The shipment fully complies with IATA Live Animals Regulations Governmental, and other control agencies requirements are met
5.3.15.6 Prohibited Live Animals
Cargo will not accept the following live animals for carriage due to animal suffering from respiratory problems, the Embargo does not apply to cross breeds.
Snub nosed dog breeds
American Staffordshire Terrier Boston Terrier
Boxer
Brussels Griffin
Bulldog
Bull Terrier Chow Chow
Dutch Pug
English Bulldog
English Toy Spaniel
French Bulldog
Japanese Chin
Japanese Pug
Japanese Spaniel (Japanese Chin)
Lhasa Apso Pekingese Shar-peis Shih
EK will not accept for carriage all aggressive dog breeds:
All Bulldog breeds American Pit Bull
Japanese Tosas Pit Bull Terriers
Perro de Presa Canario or Presa Canario or cross breeds with extract of these breeds
U.A.E Import Prohibited Breeds or types of breeds
Saluki, Greyhound, Wolf Dog Hybrid (Any dog mixed with a wolf)
Cargo will not accept any live animals 1covered under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) as detailed in Appendix I (Refer 6.2 IATA Live Animals Regulations).
EK will not accept any live animals transferred from other carriers.
U.A.E Restrictions
The importation of all live animals should be by air cargo and not under checked baggage, and requires special permission from the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries for importation into the U.A.E.
To this end, shippers of live animals not being in possession of said authority from the relevant Ministry, the shipper will be liable for the repatriation and costs of such animals to the originating station.
Reservations
Reservations for live animals shall be made 4 days in advance of flight departure. Confirmation shall have been received from the consignee prior to the booking being confirmed. No un-booked AVI shipments shall be accepted.
EK will not accept or transfer live animals shipments from/to other carriers.
Live animals may not be consolidated with other goods, but a consolidated shipment may be wholly composed of live animals.
Do get in contact with Emirates Skycargo as they will be the ones who accept your dog, even though it travels in the hold in the same aircraft as you. You can use your local Emirates office to start the process. You may well be able to bring the dog to the check-in desk, but this is where skycargo take over and take the dog a slightly different route to the aircraft.
QR will most likely have a very similar process.
Last edited by Sigwx; Apr 9, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Apr 9, 2013 | 6:25 pm
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You also need to check the overall length of your trip incl layover as we want to bring our cats to HK and from Nice the flight time is too long on EK. (EK rule)