Fuel Surcharges on EK Reward Tickets
Apr 4, 2013, 2:01 am
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Apr 4, 2013, 2:53 am
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Thanks - maybe Google Chrome is the issue - will try IE.
Just tried with IE and all good so it is indeed a Google Chrome issue - shame as Chrome is so much more stable than IE for me.
Just tried with IE and all good so it is indeed a Google Chrome issue - shame as Chrome is so much more stable than IE for me.
Last edited by mrtdxb; Apr 4, 2013 at 2:59 am Reason: Checked IE and updated post
Jun 1, 2013, 10:58 pm
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Is it just me being forgetful, or has there recently been a substantial increase to fuel surcharges on award bookings on certain routes?
I am sure last time I checked (about a month ago) on SIN-MEL return in Y (saver award), around $100 USD was levied in fuel surcharges, Today I see that fuel surcharge is now $300 USD.
Also, out of curiosity, I checked SIN-DXB return in Y: $300USD in fuel surcharges
This contrasts to KUL-DXB, return in Y ... only $90 USD in fuel surcharges, which is about what it used to be ex-SIN for both DXB and MEL routes.
I am sure last time I checked (about a month ago) on SIN-MEL return in Y (saver award), around $100 USD was levied in fuel surcharges, Today I see that fuel surcharge is now $300 USD.
Also, out of curiosity, I checked SIN-DXB return in Y: $300USD in fuel surcharges
This contrasts to KUL-DXB, return in Y ... only $90 USD in fuel surcharges, which is about what it used to be ex-SIN for both DXB and MEL routes.
Jun 1, 2013, 11:13 pm
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Although I don't have any figures to back it up my feeling is that fuel prices have been dropping since EK introduced "fuel surcharges" - they seem purely to be an obfuscatory way to increase prices ...
Jun 1, 2013, 11:28 pm
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I also have a feeling that the fuel surcharges are based on particular routes, not distance. LHR-DXB-LHR in J has taxes of £400+ on award tickets (due to the ADP and high EK fuel surcharge), which is pretty ridiculous!
Jun 2, 2013, 12:05 am
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FWIW, MEL-SIN-MEL fuel surcharges only amount to $60USD and DXB-SIN-DXB amount to $100 USD (vs SIN-MEL/DXB-SIN, $300 USD). A glitch or they just punishing those of us based in SIN?
Also, just noticed: SIN-MEL-SIN fuel surcharges [using Skywards miles on EK flights] match to the cent those imposed by Qantas, using QFF points on QF points. A sign of things to come?
Last edited by lokijuh; Jun 2, 2013 at 12:16 am Reason: just noticed match with QFF
Jun 2, 2013, 12:16 am
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Given that £200 of that is APD, £200 in fuel surcharges is reasonably consistent with similar length flights in J on EK. On that route (which is similar in length to SIN-MEL/DXB), return fuel surcharges in Y are only £60.
FWIW, MEL-SIN-MEL fuel surcharges only amount to $60USD and DXB-SIN-DXB amount to $100 USD (vs SIN-MEL/DXB-SIN, $300 USD). A glitch or they just punishing those of us based in SIN?
FWIW, MEL-SIN-MEL fuel surcharges only amount to $60USD and DXB-SIN-DXB amount to $100 USD (vs SIN-MEL/DXB-SIN, $300 USD). A glitch or they just punishing those of us based in SIN?
Nevertheless, I find this new fuel surcharge on EK sickening, because they were already uncompetitive in terms of redemption prices and are now some of the most expensive awards in terms of surcharges too!
Jun 2, 2013, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by Europeanexplorer
Nevertheless, I find this new fuel surcharge on EK sickening, because they were already uncompetitive in terms of redemption prices and are now some of the most expensive awards in terms of surcharges too!
Jun 2, 2013, 12:27 am
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Jun 2, 2013, 12:30 am
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Yes, but this is the sad problem. The taxes for a return J award are now the same price as a return Y flight! It almost makes more sense to book a cheap Y ticket and just upgrade the flights. That way, you will save 25,000 miles (assuming its an upgrade from a Saver fare) and only have to pay £67 more APD.
Jun 2, 2013, 12:39 am
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Yes, but this is the sad problem. The taxes for a return J award are now the same price as a return Y flight! It almost makes more sense to book a cheap Y ticket and just upgrade the flights. That way, you will save 25,000 miles (assuming its an upgrade from a Saver fare) and only have to pay £67 more APD.
GBP515 plus 65k taxes plus miles
Extra GBP264 to save 25k miles is borderline value
Jun 2, 2013, 12:47 am
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Compared to: £440 in taxes plus 90,000 miles.
£33 for a saving of 25,000 miles (plus the additional miles earned on the LHR-DXB-LHR flights) looks pretty good to me! Haha
Jun 2, 2013, 1:16 am
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Try £410 for a Return in Y (in Nov 2013) plus £67 extra APD (for upgrade) for a total of £477 and 65,000 miles
Compared to: £440 in taxes plus 90,000 miles.
£33 for a saving of 25,000 miles (plus the additional miles earned on the LHR-DXB-LHR flights) looks pretty good to me! Haha
Compared to: £440 in taxes plus 90,000 miles.
£33 for a saving of 25,000 miles (plus the additional miles earned on the LHR-DXB-LHR flights) looks pretty good to me! Haha
Jun 14, 2013, 10:40 am
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BHX-KUL returrn reward economy saver October 2013. Carrier imposed fuel charge is now showing as £200 +75000 + £120 tax. Two weeks ago the carrier imposed fuel charge was showing as about £80 +75000 + £120 tax for the same flights. Is this an error or has the fuel surcharge more than doubled in a week?
In 2011 I travelled with Malaysia Airlines with a 'saver' type ticket in economy, on more or less the same dates, for less than £300 in total!!!
In 2011 I travelled with Malaysia Airlines with a 'saver' type ticket in economy, on more or less the same dates, for less than £300 in total!!!