EK falling standards :(
Sep 11, 2011 | 2:32 pm
#31
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 84
its nice to hear good things about EY.
One question: how's the flight frequency and destination routes compared to ek? probably not as good.... is that a bother?
One question: how's the flight frequency and destination routes compared to ek? probably not as good.... is that a bother?
I Have been EK G for 6 out of last 7 yrs
I thought they were just the best-
thought their food has declined in quality from the first years
I have recently gone to the dark side( Etihad)
I must say other than the A380 showers and the F DXB lounge
I have not missed them
the food on EY and the cabin crew are exceptional.
I have made EK G again till 2013 but I doubt I will be joining their aircraft again except to NZ.
or if an exceptional fare comes my way.
I thought they were just the best-
thought their food has declined in quality from the first years
I have recently gone to the dark side( Etihad)
I must say other than the A380 showers and the F DXB lounge
I have not missed them
the food on EY and the cabin crew are exceptional.
I have made EK G again till 2013 but I doubt I will be joining their aircraft again except to NZ.
or if an exceptional fare comes my way.
Sep 12, 2011 | 12:46 am
#32
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Programs: SQ PPS SOLITAIRE, DL SILVER ,HHONOR DIAMOND, BONVOY GOLD, IHG PLAT
Posts: 2,045
And throwing you into a holding cell, or beating you up, or whatever else for standing up to them is not something that would happen to you in Qatar either. So trying to compare what your reaction would be from behind the protective veil of your white skin isn't really relevant here is it? QR is great for you because they WILL take care of the white and Arab passengers at the expense of the Indians, Filipinos and everyone else.
Sep 12, 2011 | 1:28 pm
#33
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Amex Platinum, Chase Sapphire Reserve
Posts: 834
I think the people that love EK the most are the ones who fly on routes where aircraft changes are unheard of (JFK/IAH/LAX/SFO/YYZ come to mind.) If you fly to YYZ, for example, you will be getting the A380 J class product.
Even on routes with a consistently bad plane (MAD comes to mind on the A340) you know the F/J products will suck so, while you might not be enthralled, at least you won't be in for a shock.
Nothing is worse than expecting a shiny new 777-300ER with suites and getting stuck on an A330-200 with non lie-flat seats even in F.
Even on routes with a consistently bad plane (MAD comes to mind on the A340) you know the F/J products will suck so, while you might not be enthralled, at least you won't be in for a shock.
Nothing is worse than expecting a shiny new 777-300ER with suites and getting stuck on an A330-200 with non lie-flat seats even in F.
Sep 13, 2011 | 4:27 am
#34
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ecosse
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum for Life, BMI Gold, EK Skywards Gold, BA Gold, IC Hotels Platinum Ambassador
Posts: 704
Qatar Airways is fine until something goes wrong. Then, if you are not Caucasian or Arab, you are toast.
A few years ago, flying QR on a paid Business Class ticket, our original aircraft went tech and they subbed a 2-class plane for a 3-class plane and had to downgrade F->J and J->Y. Instead of downgrading the passengers who had been op-upped from Y->J, they chose to do to the downgrade by ethnicity.
I was paged in the Premium Terminal and advised of the situation - my ticket (still a paper ticket back then) was stamped "INVOLUNTARY DOWNGRADE" and I was handed a new boarding pass for a bulkhead aisle seat in Economy Class. It was myself and 5 others downgraded - all of us either South Asian or Far Eastern, while a Caucasian gentleman who I had been talking to earlier at the Premium Terminal and who had been op-upped was left in Business Class.
I was then asked to collect my belongings and was escorted out of the Premium Terminal - the reasoning being that the Premium Terminal was only for Business Class pax and I had now been downgraded to Economy. I was then paged in the main terminal and my bulkhead aisle was swapped out again for a middle seat further back as the bulkhead was a bassinet and pax with infants had priority. When I asked about taking the next flight in Business Class instead, I was told that I would need to pay a fee to do this as my ticket did not permit a "stopover" in Doha.
Oh, did I mention throughtout this that I was also Elite with QR at the time?
After contacting customer service after the flight, I subsequently was given the offer of either the difference between half my discounted J-class fare and the full Y-fare (which worked out to <$100 as I had already flown the first leg in J-class), or a complimentary upgrade on a future flight on the same route. I chose the complimentary ugprade which I used a few months later without any problems. They also credited me a handful of miles (although I only received Y class miles for the route I was downgraded on).
I've switched to Emirates since then and while they have their faults and preference for some ethnicity of passengers, it is not as institutionalised and blatant as Qatar Airways is. So for those who are thinking about switching to QR, look in the mirror and if your skin colour doesn't match what they want to see, think again...
A few years ago, flying QR on a paid Business Class ticket, our original aircraft went tech and they subbed a 2-class plane for a 3-class plane and had to downgrade F->J and J->Y. Instead of downgrading the passengers who had been op-upped from Y->J, they chose to do to the downgrade by ethnicity.
I was paged in the Premium Terminal and advised of the situation - my ticket (still a paper ticket back then) was stamped "INVOLUNTARY DOWNGRADE" and I was handed a new boarding pass for a bulkhead aisle seat in Economy Class. It was myself and 5 others downgraded - all of us either South Asian or Far Eastern, while a Caucasian gentleman who I had been talking to earlier at the Premium Terminal and who had been op-upped was left in Business Class.
I was then asked to collect my belongings and was escorted out of the Premium Terminal - the reasoning being that the Premium Terminal was only for Business Class pax and I had now been downgraded to Economy. I was then paged in the main terminal and my bulkhead aisle was swapped out again for a middle seat further back as the bulkhead was a bassinet and pax with infants had priority. When I asked about taking the next flight in Business Class instead, I was told that I would need to pay a fee to do this as my ticket did not permit a "stopover" in Doha.
Oh, did I mention throughtout this that I was also Elite with QR at the time?
After contacting customer service after the flight, I subsequently was given the offer of either the difference between half my discounted J-class fare and the full Y-fare (which worked out to <$100 as I had already flown the first leg in J-class), or a complimentary upgrade on a future flight on the same route. I chose the complimentary ugprade which I used a few months later without any problems. They also credited me a handful of miles (although I only received Y class miles for the route I was downgraded on).
I've switched to Emirates since then and while they have their faults and preference for some ethnicity of passengers, it is not as institutionalised and blatant as Qatar Airways is. So for those who are thinking about switching to QR, look in the mirror and if your skin colour doesn't match what they want to see, think again...