OT: is Arkia getting mad? Sending E195 to CDG!
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OT: is Arkia getting mad? Sending E195 to CDG!
I was surprised to see the IZ now sends E195 o CDG! Are they getting mad? Sending a regional jet to France! 5 hours in such a small a/c? BTW, I didn't know that the E195 had enough range to reach CDG.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
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Barely marginal I reckon depending on config. Maybe its been retrofitted for IAF mid-air tanking...
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I think TLV -> CDG is around 3288km
Assuming the 195 is LR, Its capable of doing 3334km.
Hmmmm... I dont think i would go on such flight... 8-)
Assuming the 195 is LR, Its capable of doing 3334km.
Hmmmm... I dont think i would go on such flight... 8-)
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The E-195 must feel more claustrophobic than the 753 according to what I saw...
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The range of the 777-200ER is 7700 nmi and TLV-LAX is 7575 nmi. Will you take this flight now?
Originally Posted by LY777
The E-195 must feel more claustrophobic than the 753 according to what I saw...
For a fair comparison, ask JetBlue passengers what they prefer - A320 or E190?
Here is a thread in FT on this matter
Last edited by apirchik; Jan 29, 2009 at 2:48 pm
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TLV-LAX is only 6581nm (or 7574 mi or 12189 km)... The 77E has indeed a range of 7700 nm (or 14260 km). So, there is no comparison possible. IZ puhes the E-195 to its limits.
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I'm sorry, but TLV-CDG is 2040 miles which are 1772 nmi - far away from the 2200 nmi limit of the E195.
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First you cannot compare E195 to 777, Maybe to 737 if not 717... 8-).
Second, We are talking about different engines, And different airplane
capabilities (i dont think E195 is designed in mind for gliding while boing is).
Third, Its a Regional airplane, Used for international flights, With Israelis!
Means normally the plane reach also its maximum allowed weight 8-)
Someone here is really pushing the limit..., I am sure they have checked
all possible aspects before doing so, And i am sure others also do
similar things, Anyway i didnt fly Arkia before and i dont thing i will start
doing now 8-)
Thanks,
Eran.
Second, We are talking about different engines, And different airplane
capabilities (i dont think E195 is designed in mind for gliding while boing is).
Third, Its a Regional airplane, Used for international flights, With Israelis!
Means normally the plane reach also its maximum allowed weight 8-)
Someone here is really pushing the limit..., I am sure they have checked
all possible aspects before doing so, And i am sure others also do
similar things, Anyway i didnt fly Arkia before and i dont thing i will start
doing now 8-)
Thanks,
Eran.
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First you cannot compare E195 to 777, Maybe to 737 if not 717... 8-).
Second, We are talking about different engines, And different airplane
capabilities (i dont think E195 is designed in mind for gliding while boing is).
Third, Its a Regional airplane, Used for international flights, With Israelis!
Means normally the plane reach also its maximum allowed weight 8-)
Someone here is really pushing the limit..., I am sure they have checked
all possible aspects before doing so, And i am sure others also do
similar things, Anyway i didnt fly Arkia before and i dont thing i will start
doing now 8-)
Thanks,
Eran.
Second, We are talking about different engines, And different airplane
capabilities (i dont think E195 is designed in mind for gliding while boing is).
Third, Its a Regional airplane, Used for international flights, With Israelis!
Means normally the plane reach also its maximum allowed weight 8-)
Someone here is really pushing the limit..., I am sure they have checked
all possible aspects before doing so, And i am sure others also do
similar things, Anyway i didnt fly Arkia before and i dont thing i will start
doing now 8-)
Thanks,
Eran.
The E-Jet is not designed for 5-hour route. A major downgrade for IZ...
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It definetly does in Arkia config. AC uses it's E-195 on flights such as YYZ-YVR which is probably just as long as to CDG. Nevertheless they have a spacious cabin with a nice pitch of 34in and AVOD IFE, it's nice to fly on them I enjoyed my 1h flight from YUL to LGA however I wouldn't have minded a 4 to 5 hour flight at all. I would though in the Arkia one with their very tight configuration, then really rather the B753 which at least feels biger due to the aircraft probably not due to the pitch