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ly787 Mar 27, 2007 2:12 am

Bye Bye EAA, EAB
 
This is exactly the kind of news I hear from LY, that at the end always get postpones.
Remember how many times they said they will stop flying the 742's with pax, before they actually did it?

BUT - I heard they plan on getting rid of the "older" 762 in the fleet soon. They will start with EAA and EAB will stop flying in Decemebr 2007, then try to get rid of EAC and EAD. I dont think they will get rid of EAC and EAD until they have more 763.
They also plan on getting rid of the 757 and get more 737's.
They plan on having a fleet of:

737
763 (or as rumoured A330,B787,350)
777
744
that means no 757 and no 762
but I am sure this is not the last we will hear of this.

IMAGINE how amazing a new LY would look if the management went crazy and got a lot of money pumped into them?????
They order:
748 - 4
772 hold on to their 777, maybe get 2 773ER (though unlikely since new engines GE)
787 - Ten a/c for now with option for 10 788 and 789 maybe later to change some 777 into 7810
737-8 and new order for 6 739ER

apirchik Mar 27, 2007 3:23 am

I know that Arkia are in the final stages of selling their 757-200 (BAZ) and are also trying to sell their 2 757-300 (BAU and BAW). Israir are also getting rid of their 757-200 now that they have the 2 A320s.

So far Arkia is the only Israeli carrier with firm orders of the 787.

jonnye Mar 27, 2007 8:15 am


Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 7476185)
This is exactly the kind of news I hear from LY, that at the end always get postpones.
Remember how many times they said they will stop flying the 742's with pax, before they actually did it?

BUT - I heard they plan on getting rid of the "older" 762 in the fleet soon. They will start with EAA and EAB will stop flying in Decemebr 2007, then try to get rid of EAC and EAD. I dont think they will get rid of EAC and EAD until they have more 763.
They also plan on getting rid of the 757 and get more 737's.
They plan on having a fleet of:

737
763 (or as rumoured A330,B787,350)
777
744
that means no 757 and no 762
but I am sure this is not the last we will hear of this.

IMAGINE how amazing a new LY would look if the management went crazy and got a lot of money pumped into them?????
They order:
748 - 4
772 hold on to their 777, maybe get 2 773ER (though unlikely since new engines GE)
787 - Ten a/c for now with option for 10 788 and 789 maybe later to change some 777 into 7810
737-8 and new order for 6 739ER

IMAGINE........they went Chapter11 before then....i feel you need less imagination for this that spending close to $1bln on new Aircraft.

Jakebeth Mar 27, 2007 9:17 am


Originally Posted by jonnye (Post 7477198)
IMAGINE........they went Chapter11 before then....i feel you need less imagination for this that spending close to $1bln on new Aircraft.

Which raises the question...

What kind of bankruptcy options are there in the Israeli legal / cap-markets system?

ly787 Mar 27, 2007 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 7476290)
I know that Arkia are in the final stages of selling their 757-200 (BAZ) and are also trying to sell their 2 757-300 (BAU and BAW). Israir are also getting rid of their 757-200 now that they have the 2 A320s.

So far Arkia is the only Israeli carrier with firm orders of the 787.

What is Arkia going to do for their Europe flights if they get rid of all their 757's? They are not suppode to get the two 789 till 2012 or 2013.

ly787 Mar 28, 2007 2:08 am

I read that they are looking into getting embraer's and CRJ's.
2 with an option for two more. But Will that be instead of their 757 to Europe?

Arkia Airlines Ltd. is considering a $120 million investment to buy or lease four 70-100 seat jets with a range of 2,000 miles for flights to Cyprus and other regional destinations. The airline is examining CRJ 700 and CRJ 900 jets building by Canada’s Bombardier Inc. (TSX:BBD) and Embraer 170 and 175, built by Brazil’s Embraer-Empresa Brasileira De Aeronutica SA (NYSE:ERJ; Bovespa:EMBR3). Arkia initially plans to buy or lease two planes, followed by two more at a later date. These planes use short runways, which means that they can operate out of Tel Aviv’s Sde Dov Airport. Arkia is planning several flights per day, including to Cyprus, where it began to fly at the beginning of March
Globes.co.il

Maybe arkia will have a dream fleet of ...
Embraer 170/175
737-800/-900ER
789
748

at the end.

entropy Mar 28, 2007 10:05 am

if they want to get rid of the 753s, maybe CO will take them, they want more...

It would be nice if LY goes under and gets management that doesn't suck.

apirchik Nov 1, 2009 6:11 am

EAC is out of service and slowly being scrapped off in the corner of TLV.

ELAL Nov 2, 2009 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12746537)
EAC is out of service and slowly being scrapped off in the corner of TLV.

Finally, I'm superised that there is nothing coming in the very near future to replace it.

LY777 Nov 2, 2009 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12746537)
EAC is out of service and slowly being scrapped off in the corner of TLV.

good news! When will EAD follow?

LY777 Apr 20, 2010 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12746537)
EAC is out of service and slowly being scrapped off in the corner of TLV.

EAC is now back to service :(

EL-AL 1971 Apr 20, 2010 4:26 pm

November 2009:


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12746537)
EAC is out of service and slowly being scrapped off in the corner of TLV.



April 2010:


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 13810991)
EAC is now back to service :(




:confused::confused::confused:

TWA884 Apr 20, 2010 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by EL-AL 1971 (Post 13811482)
November 2009:

April 2010:

:confused::confused::confused:

El Al Israel Airlines Boeing 767-258(ER) 4X-EAC

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/ima.../10/45505m.jpg

ELAL Apr 20, 2010 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 13810991)
EAC is now back to service :(

I checked "libhomeradar" and yes it's been operating since 11th of April, seems like Shkedy is trying to save money :mad:

LY777 Apr 21, 2010 4:25 am

Bad move anyway...


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