LY to launch SFO with the Dreamliner
Jan 3, 2018, 1:46 am
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LY to launch SFO with the Dreamliner
Apologies for not posting this in the sticky but I think any new LY route deserves it's own thread.
Will be operated 3 times a week,, but not until the last quarter of 2018 mind.
Will be operated 3 times a week,, but not until the last quarter of 2018 mind.
Jan 3, 2018, 3:04 am
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I'm only seeing Hebrew sources for now, all bundled with the UP announcment that is overshadowing this. For example:
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I suspect LY announced SFO so far in advance to try and lower the spotlight from the UP changes but if that's the case, the media isn't buying it so far.
Of course, I might me mistaken.
?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ?????-???? UP
I suspect LY announced SFO so far in advance to try and lower the spotlight from the UP changes but if that's the case, the media isn't buying it so far.
Of course, I might me mistaken.
Jan 3, 2018, 5:14 am
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Pure conjecture on my part. When the 787 finally starts flying to JFK, in the fall, replacing the 747 it is going to diminish passenger capacity on that route. By announcing new routes, while JFK will be lower, maybe with SFO and Miami, the overall US to TLV, will remain more or less constant.
Jan 3, 2018, 7:51 am
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I don't know why they'd choose to open a new route in direct competition with an airline with an actual hub on the other end?
Now that AA is out of the Israeli mAArket, it would seem prudent to hook up with them again in both MIA and ORD.
Now that AA is out of the Israeli mAArket, it would seem prudent to hook up with them again in both MIA and ORD.
Jan 3, 2018, 7:59 am
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It's about time they launched to SFO. If they had done it a couple of years ago it would have been hugely profitable for them, but alas...hopefully it will create some competition on the route and lower the fares. Currently insane UA pricing based on the monopoly on the route. I was just looking at flights for next week and there isn't even any availability some days in business class and it's over $2,000 R/T in coach - in January! Maybe now UA will launch LAX-TLV to compete with LY on that route.
Jan 3, 2018, 8:32 am
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Though they should also be in ORD. Ridiculous that ORD has no direct flight to Israel but BOS does.
Jan 3, 2018, 10:19 am
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UA's TLV-SFO has had critical negative impact on LY's TLV-LAX which was once a daily and for a while now is down to 3x/week. Most Israeli business travel to the West Coast is focused on northern CA. SFO makes so much more sense. There is obvious strong demand and LY should have been there years ago - but alas, LY decisions are not made based on market analysis but rather (mis)perceived prestige on the part of fat cat controlling shareholders who could care less about profit margins and care much more about leveraging their LY asset for benefits in their other business interests in Israel.
Jan 3, 2018, 10:23 am
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Pure conjecture on my part. When the 787 finally starts flying to JFK, in the fall, replacing the 747 it is going to diminish passenger capacity on that route. By announcing new routes, while JFK will be lower, maybe with SFO and Miami, the overall US to TLV, will remain more or less constant.
Jan 3, 2018, 10:43 am
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It's the whole purpose of the 787. Long-haul but smaller aircraft allows for high PRASM on the route. Also saves a good 3 hours in the air + ground-time at JFK. That makes the UA service all the more enticing.
ORD? Would like to see PRASM projections for that, but doubt they are as high as NYC or SFO.
ORD? Would like to see PRASM projections for that, but doubt they are as high as NYC or SFO.
Jan 3, 2018, 11:52 am
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https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2018-01-03/israels-el-al-airlines-to-start-flights-to-silicon-valley?utm_content=65208442&utm_medium=social&utm_ source=twitter
LY will flying TLV-SFO in 4 quarters of 2018.
Jan 3, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Jan 21, 2018, 6:36 am
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