Rumor: LY or UA will start direct flight ORD-TLV
Aug 27, 2017, 7:50 pm
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Rumor: LY or UA will start direct flight ORD-TLV
Rumor! Rumor! Rumor!
Whatever LY or UA will start direct flight ORD-TLV.
Didn't LY stop flying ORD over a decades ago?
Let the speculation begin!
Whatever LY or UA will start direct flight ORD-TLV.
Didn't LY stop flying ORD over a decades ago?
Let the speculation begin!
Aug 27, 2017, 9:38 pm
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Unless UA's SFO flight is doing so well I don't foresee it being UA. It's rather easy to fly from ORD to EWR and on to TLV with two daily flights and feeds from much of the midwest. If UA did do it I don't see it as a bad thing as long as the timing is good and maybe shift the 772 from EWR so both EWR flights are 77Ws when delivered.
LY flying to ORD and codesharing with AA sounds logical to me after AA dropped PHL-TLV.
Where did this "rumor" come from?
LY flying to ORD and codesharing with AA sounds logical to me after AA dropped PHL-TLV.
Where did this "rumor" come from?
Aug 28, 2017, 10:41 am
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Came from Chicago Aviation Fans Facebook page. You should check it out.
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewt...?f=3&t=1372223
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewt...?f=3&t=1372223
Aug 28, 2017, 11:55 pm
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Considering the success UA has had with SFO-TLV, it wouldn't surprise me if they considered it. Also LY is expanding to new historical routes with the new planes (MIA) so it would also make sense.
Aug 29, 2017, 8:02 am
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Unless UA's SFO flight is doing so well I don't foresee it being UA. It's rather easy to fly from ORD to EWR and on to TLV with two daily flights and feeds from much of the midwest. If UA did do it I don't see it as a bad thing as long as the timing is good and maybe shift the 772 from EWR so both EWR flights are 77Ws when delivered.
LY flying to ORD and codesharing with AA sounds logical to me after AA dropped PHL-TLV.
Where did this "rumor" come from?
LY flying to ORD and codesharing with AA sounds logical to me after AA dropped PHL-TLV.
Where did this "rumor" come from?
Aug 29, 2017, 8:15 am
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I wasn't saying that SFO-TLV is doing poorly, but rather questions if it's doing so well that the flight goes out full with high paying fares regularly, with good cargo & little impact on EWR loads.
Many cities in the midwest are easily accessible via EWR too or with a relatively short drive to a larger airport nearby keeping it as a 1 stop flight to TLV. The smaller airports not served by EWR won't be filling up a plane to fly out of ORD.
A flight out of ORD would have little to no impact on me so I'm not against it. Just questioning the rationale when the plane could be used for other services that would serve the network better.
Many cities in the midwest are easily accessible via EWR too or with a relatively short drive to a larger airport nearby keeping it as a 1 stop flight to TLV. The smaller airports not served by EWR won't be filling up a plane to fly out of ORD.
A flight out of ORD would have little to no impact on me so I'm not against it. Just questioning the rationale when the plane could be used for other services that would serve the network better.
Aug 29, 2017, 8:22 am
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They also upped CO 90 to a 77W, so while there's a lot of additional lift to TLV, I think overall demand is increasing and traffic is shifting away from european connections.
The best food inflight I ever had was on LH TLV-FRA in F; but there's no F and no real C anymore. I really don't know why anyone in their right mind would connect in europe anymore for a garbage NEV seat and sitting in the pathetic holding pen in FRA.
The best food inflight I ever had was on LH TLV-FRA in F; but there's no F and no real C anymore. I really don't know why anyone in their right mind would connect in europe anymore for a garbage NEV seat and sitting in the pathetic holding pen in FRA.
Aug 29, 2017, 9:24 am
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They also upped CO 90 to a 77W, so while there's a lot of additional lift to TLV, I think overall demand is increasing and traffic is shifting away from european connections.
The best food inflight I ever had was on LH TLV-FRA in F; but there's no F and no real C anymore. I really don't know why anyone in their right mind would connect in europe anymore for a garbage NEV seat and sitting in the pathetic holding pen in FRA.
The best food inflight I ever had was on LH TLV-FRA in F; but there's no F and no real C anymore. I really don't know why anyone in their right mind would connect in europe anymore for a garbage NEV seat and sitting in the pathetic holding pen in FRA.
As for connecting in Europe I love it much better then the HS. I can walk around , take a shower and be refreshed when reboarding.
Did you forget about LX which is still 2x a day on widebodys, with a real Biz seat and cabin and service?
Aug 29, 2017, 9:31 am
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Many cities in the midwest are easily accessible via EWR too or with a relatively short drive to a larger airport nearby keeping it as a 1 stop flight to TLV. The smaller airports not served by EWR won't be filling up a plane to fly out of ORD.
A flight out of ORD would have little to no impact on me so I'm not against it. Just questioning the rationale when the plane could be used for other services that would serve the network better.
A flight out of ORD would have little to no impact on me so I'm not against it. Just questioning the rationale when the plane could be used for other services that would serve the network better.
As for LY it may work, but they 1st have to put the planes to work on those routes they are now flying getting rid of their 747s +. Then again LY doesnt a feed system in place and if a person will have to connect thats already in place. what may work is LY operates it with astop somewhere in Europe and can carry folks just between Europe and the US, but Im not sure they want all the security dealings that will come with that
Aug 29, 2017, 9:40 am
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I'd imagine there's a decent freight component to consider too.
Aug 29, 2017, 11:00 am
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Dont know how UA does cargo wise on that route,Id assume (maybe wrongly) that the bulk would be to LA where the Jewish community is larger especially Israeli ex-pats, and LY would have that covered via their non-stop
Aug 29, 2017, 4:29 pm
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I have no idea, TW and PanAm used to have rights out of France to/from TLV and cargo as well till the French KOed that.
My point was I just dont see LY making a go of ORD w/o being able to sell tkts where people just want to go to say ATH or just ATH to TLV. with MIA,BOS,and NYC they probably have it the best they will get it. DL couldnt make ATL work. Had they had a full US presence then maybe but having to rely on other to feed a ORD flight I just dont see it working out.
My point was I just dont see LY making a go of ORD w/o being able to sell tkts where people just want to go to say ATH or just ATH to TLV. with MIA,BOS,and NYC they probably have it the best they will get it. DL couldnt make ATL work. Had they had a full US presence then maybe but having to rely on other to feed a ORD flight I just dont see it working out.
Aug 29, 2017, 11:39 pm
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