Air India Can't Get Overflight Rights to TLV
May 10, 2017, 6:15 am
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Air India Can't Get Overflight Rights to TLV
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-a...hts-1001187941
Frankly, I'm a little surprised that Air India actually expected to get overflight rights, although if I were the Indian government, I'd tell the ME3 and Saudia if they want to land in India at all they'd better give Air India overflight rights to go wherever they want - or just stop giving them overflight rights on their flights to the far East.
Frankly, I'm a little surprised that Air India actually expected to get overflight rights, although if I were the Indian government, I'd tell the ME3 and Saudia if they want to land in India at all they'd better give Air India overflight rights to go wherever they want - or just stop giving them overflight rights on their flights to the far East.
May 11, 2017, 12:51 am
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Not sure that would work. If we go to the end game India could lose overfly rights to anywhere going west. For ME3/Saudia going East they can just fly over Indian Ocean bypassing India without much bother.
When India banned Pakistani aircraft from its airspace the retaliation cost Indian aviation a lot more.
When India banned Pakistani aircraft from its airspace the retaliation cost Indian aviation a lot more.
May 11, 2017, 2:05 am
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I was looking at flightaware and the route taken by LY71 is pretty nuts (understandable given the situation but does not help in route profitability).
With all the flak that AI gets for operating unprofitable routes it would be a shame if they had to operate it similarly and lose money just as they appear to be making positive changes.
I wonder if they can fly with a stop in Istanbul (no IST-TLV rights of course) or operate a DEL-IST flight that times well with TK's five flights to TLV and codeshare with a few. In return, they could revisit the bilaterials with Turkey and stick it to the ME3 in the process.
LY's TLV-DEL flight has a block time in the region of 7-7.5 hrs and a connection on TK would be around 9 hrs which could probably be brought down a little bit by retiming the IST-DEL leg by a bit. If its a pure tag-on with AI, it could be even less or the same.
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With all the flak that AI gets for operating unprofitable routes it would be a shame if they had to operate it similarly and lose money just as they appear to be making positive changes.
I wonder if they can fly with a stop in Istanbul (no IST-TLV rights of course) or operate a DEL-IST flight that times well with TK's five flights to TLV and codeshare with a few. In return, they could revisit the bilaterials with Turkey and stick it to the ME3 in the process.
LY's TLV-DEL flight has a block time in the region of 7-7.5 hrs and a connection on TK would be around 9 hrs which could probably be brought down a little bit by retiming the IST-DEL leg by a bit. If its a pure tag-on with AI, it could be even less or the same.
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May 11, 2017, 6:18 am
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This has to do with the radical right wing sentiments sweeping across India at this moment especially against Muslims and calls to ban halal meat and ban beef meat for consumption or sale.
May 11, 2017, 10:45 am
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Not sure that would work. If we go to the end game India could lose overfly rights to anywhere going west. For ME3/Saudia going East they can just fly over Indian Ocean bypassing India without much bother.
When India banned Pakistani aircraft from its airspace the retaliation cost Indian aviation a lot more.
When India banned Pakistani aircraft from its airspace the retaliation cost Indian aviation a lot more.
May 11, 2017, 11:47 am
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Some corrections:
- TK operates 7-8 flights per day TLV-IST (not including SAW).
- LY hasn't operated TLV-DEL in many years (decades). TLV-BOM is typically blocked for about 8 hours.
For some reason I'm remembering that the DEL flight took the northerly route via Turkish airspace rather than southerly around Arabian peninsula?
When AI last operated to TLV, was it from DEL or BOM?
- TK operates 7-8 flights per day TLV-IST (not including SAW).
- LY hasn't operated TLV-DEL in many years (decades). TLV-BOM is typically blocked for about 8 hours.
For some reason I'm remembering that the DEL flight took the northerly route via Turkish airspace rather than southerly around Arabian peninsula?
When AI last operated to TLV, was it from DEL or BOM?