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gordo6 Sep 18, 2014 11:03 pm

LY and AA shrink codeshare agreement
 
Starting October 23rd, only tickets via Europe could be purchased...

In Hebrew: http://monitour.co.il/pages/article/905

NYTA Sep 21, 2014 3:04 am

I'll start by speculating this means AA is going to start more nonstops to TLV from the USA.

ELY001 Sep 21, 2014 3:09 am


Originally Posted by NYTA (Post 23558281)
I'll start by speculating this means AA is going to start more nonstops to TLV from the USA.

I'll second that. At this point, EL AL really doesnt have much to offer AA anyway, so it makes sense for the codeshare to be more limited and eventually wind down.

Shimon Sep 23, 2014 11:49 pm

End of LY and AA partnership
 
Who is LY going to partner with now? http://loyaltylobby.com/2014/09/24/a...tober-31-2014/

gordo6 Sep 24, 2014 1:02 am

Much related to what I posted here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/el-al...agreement.html) a few days ago. Maybe the threads should be merged?

As per the article I brought in the thread I started, LY will connect to VX/AS/B6 inside the US. However it is unknown yet whether they'll start code sharing and/or a FF agreement, or just allow interlining and purchasing combined tickets as is also now allowed.

FlyingOutTLV Sep 24, 2014 5:16 am

A very sad day for AAdvantage members based in TLV. :(

Not that I think LY business class product is great, but LY was almost the only option to use miles going east to Asia and the South Pacific given the AAdvantage routing rules. Now it's basically RJ, and it all comes down to TLV-AMM availability which I don't think is too great. :confused:

I wonder if AA will make an exception to it's routing rules because of the rather unique situation TLV is at. Maybe reallocating Israel as part of Europe so one could use IB/BA/AB/AY. Though, that would mean giving up on some great redemption prices to the east.

In the last two months alone I used AAdvantage miles to book LY awards for friends and family to BOM, BKK, HKG and PEK.

On the earning side, btw,

LY was always using W fare bucket for special sales as discount economy fare bucket. AAdvantage classified W as regular economy fare bucket which meant 100% miles accrual. Great sweet spot, I think, but now it's gone.

NYTA Sep 24, 2014 5:33 am

This totally screws up my earning/burning strategies. Do you think it's possible to get LY flights credited earlier this year to AA re-credited to LY?

FlyingOutTLV Sep 24, 2014 5:55 am


Originally Posted by NYTA (Post 23573491)
This totally screws up my earning/burning strategies. Do you think it's possible to get LY flights credited earlier this year to AA re-credited to LY?

I would bet anything they will not allow it. But, for a slight chance my bet is off, you can ask AA.

entropy Sep 24, 2014 6:19 am

REally unsurprising given that AA now flies to TLV as USAir.

It is a shame though, I burned far more AA miles on LY than anything else.

yosithezet Sep 24, 2014 10:24 am

Bummer. At least I can see my kids a few last times next year using AA miles.

entropy Sep 24, 2014 8:19 pm

Rumors now that American will be starting Mia and Jfk to Tlv....

UA Fan Sep 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Does LY need a US based carrier?

mkilmo Sep 26, 2014 12:56 am


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 23582105)
Does LY need a US based carrier?

Yes.

To cover SFO/SEA/PDX/BOS (tech-savvy areas with a lot of israelis/israeli business connections).

To cover MIA (large jewish population).

And to cover all the various tourist destinations.

From LY's point of view, it's better to be the one operating the trans-atlantic leg.

UA Fan Sep 26, 2014 7:59 am

Thanks, would any US carrier sign a FFP with them? AS?

joshwex90 Sep 27, 2014 2:14 pm

And there goes my plan to fly TLV-BKK in C on LY using AA miles next year!

What do I do with all my AA miles that I saved up, specifically for that purpose??


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