wierd biz plan on 747
Feb 19, 2014, 2:41 pm
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Looks like they have taken out the last row of First (row 4) and put 6 business class seats in its place (replacing the table in the middle of the cabin). Then renumbered it as row 10.
Feb 19, 2014, 7:00 pm
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He said that he heard conflicting reports on whether there would be new First Class seats though I can't imagine them putting in new seats in Business and keeping the current First Class seats as any new lie-flat seat in C would be a upgrade over their current F Class
Then again, I'd never put anything past the wonderful folks at EL AL
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Feb 19, 2014, 10:54 pm
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Feb 20, 2014, 12:27 am
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To be honest, it just looks like they are using the back row of F as C, although I'm not sure how exactly they manage that because it's not like they have a curtain they can close between them.
Feb 20, 2014, 1:55 am
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oops. sorry. you are right.
some of the 747 still show the old configuration.
row 10 2-3-2
row 11 2-3-2
row 12 2-3-2
row 13 2 -- 2
and with the new config ..
row 10 2-2-2-
row 11 2-3-2
row 12 2-3-2
row 13 2-3-2
so what happened ? row 13 which had only seats at the sides disappeared ?
so they took one row from FIRST ,and 3 rows from BIZ discarding the old 13 row ?
some of the 747 still show the old configuration.
row 10 2-3-2
row 11 2-3-2
row 12 2-3-2
row 13 2 -- 2
and with the new config ..
row 10 2-2-2-
row 11 2-3-2
row 12 2-3-2
row 13 2-3-2
so what happened ? row 13 which had only seats at the sides disappeared ?
so they took one row from FIRST ,and 3 rows from BIZ discarding the old 13 row ?
Feb 20, 2014, 4:05 am
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Interesting. My flight in a month, shows the new upstairs configuration, BUT my flight in the summer don't. Is it different aircraft or just they have updated maps that far out. It would be very hard to go backwards in seat quality. ( acknowledging the word quality is relative)
Feb 24, 2014, 1:30 am
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How is this even closely competitive to the 1-1 upper deck configuration on Delta 747 service TLV-JFK?
Am I missing something?
Flew ElAl for the first time yesterday, in Business, TLV-AMS. The best part was the 16:20 departure from TLV. Wasn't particularly impressed with the 737-800; but it's better than KLM Business (in timing, and cabin configuration).
Am I missing something?
Flew ElAl for the first time yesterday, in Business, TLV-AMS. The best part was the 16:20 departure from TLV. Wasn't particularly impressed with the 737-800; but it's better than KLM Business (in timing, and cabin configuration).
Feb 24, 2014, 4:13 am
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The biz product on the 737s is one area where LY are better than some of their competitors on routes where the other airlines are using S/H products, like FRA, AMS, VIE, WAW to name a few.
Feb 24, 2014, 5:29 am
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You're not missing anything. LY's product (as discussed here endlessly) is considerably inferior to all other carriers on the route regardless of the seat configuration.
The biz product on the 737s is one area where LY are better than some of their competitors on routes where the other airlines are using S/H products, like FRA, AMS, VIE, WAW to name a few.
The biz product on the 737s is one area where LY are better than some of their competitors on routes where the other airlines are using S/H products, like FRA, AMS, VIE, WAW to name a few.
Now, I know that Delta has some operational issues (vis-a-vis 747s from TLV); but from what I can ascertain it's not like El Al is an amazing "on-time" carrier; so , not to sound stupid... why do people fly El Al on long-haul flights where there is an alternative?
I enjoyed the service TLV-AMS; there was one "weird" situation, but other than that, it was superior to KLM. Catering was definitely superior to KLM. The KLM AM departure from TLV is such a horrible time anyway (well, unless you need to catch a quick connection to DTW or BOS).
Feb 24, 2014, 6:28 am
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Feb 24, 2014, 8:53 am
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