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mkilmo Jan 5, 2010 4:27 am

TLV to start an experiment with biometric "security screening"
 
(only hebrew): http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1140091.html

You'll register, and instead of being asked by a real person whether you are going to blow up the plane accidentally, a computer will ask you that. You will need to prove your identity to the computer using biometric mechanisms, and a special card.

Pilot to begin with LY's matmid members (I would guess those with status). So... did any of you got invited?

yosithezet Jan 5, 2010 9:30 am

I got the email about it. It doesn't seem to be targeted to specific Matmid members. It just says to go to register at the counters when arriving for the next trip.

http://www.nextopic.com/ELAL/Pages/V...97272_44198771

ELAL Jan 5, 2010 10:02 am

I'm very confused, will that mean no more being questioned by an agent? isn't the whole idea that the agent picks up if you are nervous Etc? how will this work with the machine?

Have they actually decided to lax security in such times? :confused:

Lehava Jan 5, 2010 10:59 am

Seems a smart plan to me. They can weed out those they need to talk to each time and those that are "safe" and a waste of resources to ask the questions too each time. Its not LAX security, it is better resource allocation.

TWA884 Jan 5, 2010 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by mkilmo (Post 13114877)

For those who do not read Hebrew:

Haaretz - Israel airport now testing 'self-check' security system

Globes - Ben Gurion Airport launches pilot biometric security system

ebzed Jan 5, 2010 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by yosithezet (Post 13116400)
I got the email about it. It doesn't seem to be targeted to specific Matmid members. It just says to go to register at the counters when arriving for the next trip.

http://www.nextopic.com/ELAL/Pages/V...97272_44198771

I think its targeted to specific FF who travel a lot, Check with few friends, they didnt got it while i got it... i was just about to ask in the forum if anyone else got it as well.

ELAL Jan 5, 2010 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 13118733)
I think its targeted to specific FF who travel a lot, Check with few friends, they didnt got it while i got it... i was just about to ask in the forum if anyone else got it as well.

Is it only the email's which are being sent to those who fly a lot, but whoever wants can actually try it, or only these passengers being invited, can try it?

TWA884 Jan 5, 2010 2:38 pm

More details: Jerusalem Post - Ben-Gurion Airport revolutionizes security with Unipass biometric system

economyman Jan 5, 2010 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by Lehava (Post 13117086)
Seems a smart plan to me. They can weed out those they need to talk to each time and those that are "safe" and a waste of resources to ask the questions too each time. Its not LAX security, it is better resource allocation.

Agreed. If you can get the card then you are probably already not someone who needs to be questioned in detail.

I got the email so I suppose I fly a lot! :eek:

yosithezet Jan 5, 2010 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 13118733)
I think its targeted to specific FF who travel a lot, Check with few friends, they didnt got it while i got it... i was just about to ask in the forum if anyone else got it as well.

I won't be flying again for 3-4 weeks. :( I hope they are still taking registrations then.

ELAL Jan 7, 2010 3:35 pm

Crisis!
 

Originally Posted by yosithezet (Post 13121695)
I won't be flying again for 3-4 weeks. :( I hope they are still taking registrations then.

According to Ynet 250 people have already registered for the service, and none have reported to us!

Come on lads, someone please have some mercy.

yosithezet Jan 7, 2010 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by ELAL (Post 13135209)
According to Ynet 250 people have already registered for the service, and none have reported to us!

Come on lads, someone please have some mercy.


I wonder if i could just stop at the airport on the way home from work and register. They may find that suspicious. :)

ebzed Jan 7, 2010 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by yosithezet (Post 13135317)
I wonder if i could just stop at the airport on the way home from work and register. They may find that suspicious. :)

It says in the link "On your next flight"... On the other side you can try
in the worse case you can write in the forum on "cavity check experience, Natbag x/01/10" 8-)

JohnnieZ Jan 7, 2010 4:22 pm

If no one's there earlier, my next flight is in a week and I'll be happy to report.

seaskybound Jan 9, 2010 12:33 am

I registered by chance. I was very late to my LY Y flight and went to the business live to save time and they pulled me over to register, promised me 2 mins registration and 2 mins going through the system. I rarely fly LY.

Regiatration is fast, take PP details, take picture and fingerprint. Get magnetic card with ur name on it,

the actual security process is not coherent, u go from station to station put ur card and do things like identify urself, answer questions, swab ur luggage. At the end they manually handed me a luggage security tag so I do not know how it would be in reality. At check in there is a small machine to prove via the card that u went through security (not sticker on PP)

I had the guy who registered it with me show me step by steped but it was rushed and did not work perfectly....

I am not clear if I can use this system if going to other airlines, I assume u can if u do not have to actually check in (OLCI) as they dont have the security verification system yet...


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