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dchristiva Oct 3, 2011 10:48 am


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17208239)
Glad to hear from someone experienced in this area..

Granted other streams of revenue such as tickets, parphernalia, parking.. will outshadow the revenue of concessions.. but as you said, some sports teams focus on the food as a revenue source because of the high profit margin..

In many cases, it's the arena management, not the team itself who sets the prices. Teams often share in the concession revenue in places where a stadium/arena has multiple tenants, so the teams negotiate what they'll get from concessions, souveniers, parking, etc. Most team-specific income comes from TV and radio broadcasting and then luxury suite/seat sales. Corporate advertising/naming rights can also be a big contributor to income.

Ancien Maestro Oct 3, 2011 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17212565)
In many cases, it's the arena management, not the team itself who sets the prices. Teams often share in the concession revenue in places where a stadium/arena has multiple tenants, so the teams negotiate what they'll get from concessions, souveniers, parking, etc. Most team-specific income comes from TV and radio broadcasting and then luxury suite/seat sales. Corporate advertising/naming rights can also be a big contributor to income.

We all having witnessed the Phoenix Coyotes Saga, and then the surprising end to the Atlanta Thrashers.. a well negotiated contract with the arena is key to a teams' survival nowadays..

The professional baseball team in Calgary just folded due to lack of funding..

dchristiva Oct 6, 2011 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17215879)
We all having witnessed the Phoenix Coyotes Saga, and then the surprising end to the Atlanta Thrashers.. a well negotiated contract with the arena is key to a teams' survival nowadays..

The professional baseball team in Calgary just folded due to lack of funding..

Thrashers problem was attendance more than anything else. Doesn't matter what you charge for parking & concessions if no one goes to the games! Phoenix seems to be getting a sweetheart deal from Glendale, so it will be interesting to see how that situation evolves.

Ancien Maestro Oct 6, 2011 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17229458)
Thrashers problem was attendance more than anything else. Doesn't matter what you charge for parking & concessions if no one goes to the games! Phoenix seems to be getting a sweetheart deal from Glendale, so it will be interesting to see how that situation evolves.

I don't get Bettman.. he hangs the Coyotes around for years.. and a drop of a dime, Thrashers end up in the 'Peg..

Yeah, maybe Balsillie didn't dangle the $50 million to the NHL BOD for transfer approval, but certainly Betmann could have mention his price?

dchristiva Oct 7, 2011 9:18 am


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17233977)
I don't get Bettman.. he hangs the Coyotes around for years.. and a drop of a dime, Thrashers end up in the 'Peg..

Yeah, maybe Balsillie didn't dangle the $50 million to the NHL BOD for transfer approval, but certainly Betmann could have mention his price?

Agreed. Seems like there was more to the Phoenix situation than met the eye. Fan support didn't seem to be as much of an issue there, as opposed to ATL though. I suspect that was a factor. The pieces in the ATL situation moved a lot more fluidly than anything that's happened in PHX. And ATL and the NHL had been looking for buyers who would keep the team in Atlanta for quite some time without finding any takers (big surprise!). I think everyone who expressed interest in the Coyotes was planning to keep the team in Glendale (at least that's what they said publicly). Balsillie was the only one who was talking about going to Canada and I think that was part of his undoing.

Ancien Maestro Oct 7, 2011 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17235653)
Agreed. Seems like there was more to the Phoenix situation than met the eye. Fan support didn't seem to be as much of an issue there, as opposed to ATL though. I suspect that was a factor. The pieces in the ATL situation moved a lot more fluidly than anything that's happened in PHX. And ATL and the NHL had been looking for buyers who would keep the team in Atlanta for quite some time without finding any takers (big surprise!). I think everyone who expressed interest in the Coyotes was planning to keep the team in Glendale (at least that's what they said publicly). Balsillie was the only one who was talking about going to Canada and I think that was part of his undoing.

I remember a rally to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix.. and I think about 100 people showed up? If it was worse in Atlanta, I couldn't imagine their save the Thraser rally turnouts..

I think its Helsizer (can't remember his name) who was interested in the Coyotes, is now close to closing the St. Louis sale.. So seems that nobody is able to feasibly keep the team in Phoenix..

In the end, I believe the main factor that is keeping the Coyotes in Phoenix, is Phoenix city hall willingness to cover most of the losses.. now for a couple of years in a row..

NHL can run up a deficit and debt on the team to the point where they can cover the losses with the future sale.. I don't believe that the Thrashers had a supporting government that was willing to do that..

It still seems weird, even with these explanations on the table, that Bettman would on a dime relocate the Thrashers, and at the same time, drag out the Phoenix Coyotes for as long as they have..

CMK10 Oct 8, 2011 7:50 am

To get this back on topic, the Kansas City Royals park (Kaufman Stadium) has a hot dog place out on the main level behind left field that's quite good. They have several different styles and a good beer selection including local brews. I had the Texas dog with chili, cheese and Fritos and my brother had a Chicago dog and they were both quite good.

bsaced Feb 17, 2012 5:41 am

Sausage rolls and meat pies at london premiership stadiums are the best.

lpatron Mar 5, 2012 8:59 pm

Wrigley Field is an amazing place to take in a game and experience an old-school baseball atmosphere, so I guess in that spirit they keep the concessions basic. But the offerings are pretty slim and nothing is really above average. I usually bring in my own food as they have a pretty lenient policy about bringing it in.

somethinpositiv Mar 13, 2012 9:22 am

Gilette Stadium has good brats!

Mendobrew Mar 13, 2012 3:43 pm

The hot dogs at the old Tiger Stadium in Detroit set the standard for baseball.

These days the best baseball hot dogs are found during spring training; when smaller concessionaires and local charities team up. My current favorite baseball hot dog is in Port Charlotte Florida at the Tampa Bay Rays spring training site.

I am also a big fan of the SF Giants “Gilroy Garlic Fries”. Originally invented by Gordon Biersh Brewing Company and served at Candlestick, they were given one of the best locations in the new Pac Bell Park when it opened in 2000. The smell of one order of Garlic Fries in a section of the ball park will lead to 15-20 more orders in that same section within 2 innings… and a lot of heartburn on the way home.:D

Ancien Maestro Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm

Pocket Dawgs at the Saddledome during a Flames game is a good option.. also the lineup for ice cream isn't that long.^

kipper Apr 3, 2012 1:07 pm

PNC Park offerings updated
 
I have to admit that the Pirates might convince me to attend a game to try the smokehouse dog and the Polish Hill dog.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...season-629717/


New food items at the ballpark this season include Bucco Nacho: lime tortilla chips with nacho cheese, smoked jalapeno peach salsa, cilantro creme fraiche and ground beef, one of several exotic nacho offerings being trotted out at U.S. ballparks this season by concessionaire ARAMARK.

Also on the menu this season are a Reuben dog (with thousand-island dressing, swiss cheese and sauerkraut); a smokehouse dog (with pulled pork, onion straws and Kansas City-style barbecue sauce; the Polish Hill dog (with slaw, mini potato pierogies and onion straws); and jumbo Cajun fries.

Just4U, a new healthy options stand, will offer gluten-free hot dogs and nachos, grilled brie-and-fruit-compote sandwiches, vegan sweet potato chips, salads and fruit.

Nakama, the South Side restaurant, will debut a stand that will bring sushi and other Japanese delicacies to fans, and Chickie's & Pete's, a Philadelphia-area sports bar chain, will serve up their "world famous crabfries," crinkle-cut fries with a secret blend of spices and white cheese sauce.

gfunkdave Apr 4, 2012 7:07 am

Garlic fries at Pac Bell Park (now AT&T Park I think) in San Francisco. Mmm.

csufabel Apr 4, 2012 7:09 pm

15 somewhat new foods for this season

It also seems to be the ARAMARK's year of the nacho.


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