Help for Corked Wine - Pour it over Plastic?
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Help for Corked Wine - Pour it over Plastic?
From a story in the NY Times today on what works and what doesn't work to enhance the value of wine
Mr. Waterhouse said that the obnoxious, dank flavor of a “corked” wine, which usually renders it unusable even in cooking, can be removed by pouring the wine into a bowl with a sheet of plastic wrap.
“It’s kind of messy, but very effective in just a few minutes,” he said. “The culprit molecule in infected corks, 2,4,6-trichloroanisole, is chemically similar to polyethylene and sticks to the plastic.”
Full story about what doesn't work (pennies, dipping silver or carbon steel in it), etc is here
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/dining/14curi.html
Mr. Waterhouse said that the obnoxious, dank flavor of a “corked” wine, which usually renders it unusable even in cooking, can be removed by pouring the wine into a bowl with a sheet of plastic wrap.
“It’s kind of messy, but very effective in just a few minutes,” he said. “The culprit molecule in infected corks, 2,4,6-trichloroanisole, is chemically similar to polyethylene and sticks to the plastic.”
Full story about what doesn't work (pennies, dipping silver or carbon steel in it), etc is here
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/dining/14curi.html
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i would think that to cram the plastic into a wide mouth decanter, or a wine pitcher pour the wine on it, and then just leave the plastic in the container.
mr waterhouse did not mention the type of plastic to use. plastic is not an element. various plastic films are very different chemical compositions.
mr waterhouse was very surprised that the aging process in wines was accelerated by raising the temp, and that the wine was not necessarily ruined when stored in that manner. sounds to me like "professor of wine chemistry at the University of California, Davis, and a specialist in oxidation reactions and phenolic substances" never took a course in oxidation reduction reactions.
mr waterhouse did not mention the type of plastic to use. plastic is not an element. various plastic films are very different chemical compositions.
mr waterhouse was very surprised that the aging process in wines was accelerated by raising the temp, and that the wine was not necessarily ruined when stored in that manner. sounds to me like "professor of wine chemistry at the University of California, Davis, and a specialist in oxidation reactions and phenolic substances" never took a course in oxidation reduction reactions.
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I've heard that before about plastic wrap, but I've never tried it. I agree with slawecki; why in a bowl rather than in a decanter? Or at worst, a jar or glass.
Also in the article...
“You can saturate a wine with oxygen by sloshing it into a decanter, but then the oxygen just sits there,” he said. “It reacts very slowly. To change the tannins perceptibly in an hour, you would have to hit the wine with pure oxygen, high pressure and temperature, and powdered iron with a huge catalytic surface area.”
Now a gadget with THAT is one that I haven't seen advertised yet!
(I suspect that this would not be good for many of the other characteristics of the wine.)
I have a hard time taking several things seriously in this article. For example, the ending about an accelerated aging system...
“So there’s no single optimal temperature for aging wines. I’d tell people who don’t keep wine for decades to forget about cellar temperatures. Take those big reds and put them on top of the refrigerator, the most heat-abusive place you can find, and in three years they’ll probably be at their peak.”
3 years on top of a refrigerator? I'm not going to try to prove him wrong.
Also in the article...
“You can saturate a wine with oxygen by sloshing it into a decanter, but then the oxygen just sits there,” he said. “It reacts very slowly. To change the tannins perceptibly in an hour, you would have to hit the wine with pure oxygen, high pressure and temperature, and powdered iron with a huge catalytic surface area.”
Now a gadget with THAT is one that I haven't seen advertised yet!
(I suspect that this would not be good for many of the other characteristics of the wine.)I have a hard time taking several things seriously in this article. For example, the ending about an accelerated aging system...
“So there’s no single optimal temperature for aging wines. I’d tell people who don’t keep wine for decades to forget about cellar temperatures. Take those big reds and put them on top of the refrigerator, the most heat-abusive place you can find, and in three years they’ll probably be at their peak.”
3 years on top of a refrigerator? I'm not going to try to prove him wrong.
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we have and use crystal wine pitchers or large mouthed decanters. the opening at the top of various ones that we use have openings at the top from 4 to 6 inches. one could crinkle(wrinkle) up a few feet of plastic wrap and stuff it into the pitcher. would/could have a great deal of surface area. will go searching for a bottle of corked wine and try the plastic test.
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Mr. Waterhouse said that the obnoxious, dank flavor of a “corked” wine, which usually renders it unusable even in cooking, can be removed by pouring the wine into a bowl with a sheet of plastic wrap.
“It’s kind of messy, but very effective in just a few minutes,” he said. “The culprit molecule in infected corks, 2,4,6-trichloroanisole, is chemically similar to polyethylene and sticks to the plastic.”
“It’s kind of messy, but very effective in just a few minutes,” he said. “The culprit molecule in infected corks, 2,4,6-trichloroanisole, is chemically similar to polyethylene and sticks to the plastic.”
Inertness (for lack of a better word) is a property of environmental conditions. Even inert gases like xenon can be made to react under extreme conditions.
Here's what Wikipedia has to say on the subject of cork taint:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia, Cork Taint
There are few means of reducing the level of TCA in tainted wine that are approved by the TTB (formerly BATF). Some vintners have used Half & Half to remove TCA from wine (the TCA in the wine is sequestered by the butterfat in Half & Half). Other means of removing TCA from tainted wine is to soak polyethylene (a plastic used for applications such as milk containers and plastic food wrap) in the infected wine. The non-polar TCA molecule has a high affinity for the polyethylene molecule, thereby removing the taint from the wine. The surface area of polyethylene needed to reduce the taint to sub-threshold levels is based on the TCA level in the affected wine, temperature, and the alcohol level of the wine. The French company Boffin markets a product called "Dream Taste" which uses a copolymer shaped like a cluster of grapes to remove the TCA taint from commercial wine.
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Also in the article...
“You can saturate a wine with oxygen by sloshing it into a decanter, but then the oxygen just sits there,” he said. “It reacts very slowly. To change the tannins perceptibly in an hour, you would have to hit the wine with pure oxygen, high pressure and temperature, and powdered iron with a huge catalytic surface area.”
“You can saturate a wine with oxygen by sloshing it into a decanter, but then the oxygen just sits there,” he said. “It reacts very slowly. To change the tannins perceptibly in an hour, you would have to hit the wine with pure oxygen, high pressure and temperature, and powdered iron with a huge catalytic surface area.”
http://www.vinturi.com/home.html
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I haven't tried one of these yet, but recently saw it demonstrated on TV
http://www.vinturi.com/home.html
http://www.vinturi.com/home.html
There's a simpler option for dealing with corked wine - take it back. Most good wine shops will take back a corked bottle and swap it for a new one. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for big-box liquor stores and supermarkets.

