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BamaVol Oct 15, 2007 7:14 pm

Should a server sit at your table?
 
I had lunch at Logans Roadhouse today. It was my server's first day on the job and it wasn't going well. When she came to the table to take an order, she sat in one of the two empty seats. It felt odd, like her previous job had been in a strip club. Anyone else experience this?

delmargal Oct 15, 2007 7:33 pm

That's unprofessional and I wouldn't like it, but then again I guess it could depend on the restaurant. Even my friends that have been servers never sat down to take our orders-it just looks bad IMO.

ALARISstl Oct 15, 2007 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 8565289)
I had lunch at Logans Roadhouse today. It was my server's first day on the job and it wasn't going well. When she came to the table to take an order, she sat in one of the two empty seats. It felt odd, like her previous job had been in a strip club. Anyone else experience this?

Was she hot? If so, who cares!;)

Fredd Oct 15, 2007 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 8565289)
It felt odd, like her previous job had been in a strip club. Anyone else experience this?

Did she recognize you? Did you recognize her? :D

ylwae Oct 15, 2007 7:54 pm

I kind of like it if she takes the time to sit and chat, especially if it's not about my order.

kaukau Oct 15, 2007 9:08 pm

I'll invite 'em to have a seat when they're rattling off a long list of specials! Really surprises them! Some do, some don't; but all get a really big smile on their face.....and the service throughout the rest of the meal is outstanding! ;)

luv2ctheworld Oct 15, 2007 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by ALARISstl (Post 8565457)
Was she hot? If so, who cares!;)

I won't be complaining if she was a looker :D

I recall some of the waitresses at Hooters does that all the time... it seems so.... personable :cool: I'd like to help them take a break from all that walkin' in those tight outfits :p

silverthief2 Oct 15, 2007 10:31 pm

Yeah, it happened to me once at an Applebee's or something like that ... it was initially a little confusing, but there were empty chairs so it didn't really matter in the end. At least she got to take a load off for a minute. :)

zdave Oct 15, 2007 10:44 pm

An old co-worker who used to work at Outback said that it was required at that time. Doesn't bother me if it's a table but a booth is a little awkward.

opus17 Oct 15, 2007 11:13 pm

It's a bit 1981. Came from the same era that introduced "Hi, my name is *** and I'll be your server."

USirritated Oct 16, 2007 12:53 am

If it is a neighborhood pub with sawdust on the floor or where the servers wear red and white plaid, then it is okay, but I kind of think that they should ask first, because it is kind of your space, right? But if it is not a neighborhood kind of a place or if it is more upscale, then I would say definitely not!

stut Oct 16, 2007 5:13 am


Originally Posted by kaukau (Post 8565843)
I'll invite 'em to have a seat when they're rattling off a long list of specials!

This is something I notice when travelling to the US in particular. Is there a point of pride about memorising the specials? I can never keep track of them, and would much rather have them written down or chalked up somewhere...

To the OP, I would find it odd, but not particularly objectionable.

BamaVol Oct 16, 2007 5:40 am

Logan's is a casual steak chain. The server was young and attractive. I did not object. It simply felt strange, almost a come-on. She sat next to my co-worker. I'll have to ask his opinion.

alex0683de Oct 16, 2007 5:47 am

I don't think it's a huge faux-pas, but I think it's something that should be avoided.

However, there is one situation where I am fully behind the waiter/waitress sitting down at the table - when there's a group of people who all want seperate checks and he or she has to work out by hand how much everybody owes.

Sirecca Oct 16, 2007 6:26 am


Originally Posted by zdave (Post 8566224)
An old co-worker who used to work at Outback said that it was required at that time. Doesn't bother me if it's a table but a booth is a little awkward.

Haven't been to Outback in a while, but I do recall this happening there several times. Since they tended to hire young attractive ladies at the Outback I used to frequent, I kind of enjoyed the booth crashers as well.

MisterNice Oct 16, 2007 8:16 am

I have not been to an Outback since they quit allowing tossing of the spent peanut shells onto the floor. I dont remember them sitting in the booth with the customers.

MisterNice

USirritated Oct 16, 2007 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by MisterNice (Post 8567675)
I have not been to an Outback since they quit allowing tossing of the spent peanut shells onto the floor. I dont remember them sitting in the booth with the customers.

MisterNice

That happened to me once or twice at Outback, and I did not like it much. It is a bit too familiar. I don't mean to sound mean here, but if I am at a restaurant with one special person, or with a group of people from my office (usually why I am there), and all of a sudden someone comes over and sits down, and starts a conversation while taking the order (that is what always happens when they sit down, they chit chat, which I do not like much), it is usually an interruption of whatever we were talking about, or at the very least an invasion of our space, and sometimes it is difficult to get the "flow back," if that makes any sense. Besides, if they are going to sit down, they could at least ask first, right?

violist Oct 16, 2007 12:40 pm

As I understand it, at Outback they are supposed to sit at your
table to take your order!, asking "may I join you briefly" or the
equivalent before sitting down. Alas, they do not ask "may I serve
you an overcooked to your specifications mediocre piece of
previously frozen beef with some salty crap on it" before doing so.

As far as chains go, Texas Roadhouse has generally better meat
for a generally better price and allows you to throw your peanut
shells on the floor.

MisterNice Oct 16, 2007 12:53 pm

I stand corrected. Most of the time 6 of us would go to Outback and actually squeeze into an elevated booth so no room for the order person. Occasionally 1 or of us would eat in the bar area and yes, she would sit down to take the order and test her cheese -covered french fries upsale skills. It appeared to be 8 lb of gooey stuff and served all 2-6 people when ordered.

MisterNice

USirritated Oct 16, 2007 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by violist (Post 8569244)
As I understand it, at Outback they are supposed to sit at your
table to take your order!, asking "may I join you briefly" or the
equivalent before sitting down. Alas, they do not ask "may I serve
you an overcooked to your specifications mediocre piece of
previously frozen beef with some salty crap on it" before doing so.

As far as chains go, Texas Roadhouse has generally better meat
for a generally better price and allows you to throw your peanut
shells on the floor.

Interesting that you put it that way. Actually the quality level does differ from location to location, because many Outbacks are franchises. The Fort Lauderdale locations are much better than you describe, and their CREAMY ONION soup is fantastic! I go there for that alone!

iff Oct 16, 2007 1:08 pm

I experienced it once, and I don't like it any more than I like the bank teller or the supermarket cashier calling me by my first name.

It's just too familiar for my taste.

powerlifter Oct 16, 2007 1:10 pm

I was on a bussiness trip, and was eating at the outback for the very first time. The waiter sat on my coat that was on the chair. (I was in a booth):td:

I went into a small frenzy asking what was he doing. He just looked stuned as I told him to get up, and get the manager. I then in a calm manner told the manager how I didn't want the help sitting at my table or on my coat.

I asked him if I was supposed to buy the waiter dinner, because we were such good friends now. he stated that is what we do , and we have never had any complaints. (yea right)

I decided to leave as I wondered what they would do to my food. I have never been back to the outback. :mad: Went to the Texas Road House.^

kaukau Oct 16, 2007 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by iff (Post 8569414)
I experienced it once, and I don't like it any more than I like the bank teller or the supermarket cashier calling me by my first name.

It's just too familiar for my taste.


Yes, your Highness. :D

kaukau Oct 16, 2007 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by powerlifter (Post 8569426)
I was on a bussiness trip, and was eating at the outback for the very first time. The waiter sat on my coat that was on the chair. (I was in a booth):td:

I went into a small frenzy asking what was he doing....

Lighten up, Francis. :D

violist Oct 16, 2007 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated
Interesting that you put it that way. Actually the quality level does differ from location to location

OK, I admit, the first one I went to, in Fresno maybe 15 years ago, was
just terrific. Since then, my experience has gone from ehh downward, with
the worst ones in Massachusetts, the ones in Maryland not enormously
better. I wrote this off to expansionitis and have been looking forward with
some trepidation to a similar phenomenon occurring at Texas Roadhouse as
it grows beyond its ability. If you happen to be a shareholder in the parent
of Outback, please be reassured that I have enjoyed my Carrabba's
experiences.

Question: how do you post in that almost illegible blue type?

Sirecca Oct 16, 2007 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by powerlifter (Post 8569426)
I was on a bussiness trip, and was eating at the outback for the very first time. The waiter sat on my coat that was on the chair. (I was in a booth):td:

I went into a small frenzy asking what was he doing. He just looked stuned as I told him to get up, and get the manager. I then in a calm manner told the manager how I didn't want the help sitting at my table or on my coat.

I asked him if I was supposed to buy the waiter dinner, because we were such good friends now. he stated that is what we do , and we have never had any complaints. (yea right)

I decided to leave as I wondered what they would do to my food. I have never been back to the outback. :mad: Went to the Texas Road House.^

Wow, you sound just like my late Grandpa. He had such a temper over the littlest things....

marais Oct 16, 2007 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by delmargal (Post 8565379)
That's unprofessional and I wouldn't like it, but then again I guess it could depend on the restaurant. Even my friends that have been servers never sat down to take our orders-it just looks bad IMO.

Depends on the restaurant, indeed! At a run-of-the-mill chain restaurant it wouldn't look right. But at a finer, more personal restaurant where the host wants to explore your tastes and make appropriate food and wine recommendations (or alterations to menu items ad lib.), and where taking your order becomes a non-superficial conversation instead, the experience can be mind-blowing. Example: Dom's in Boston's North End. It's been around for years, the host sits down with you patiently and helps you customize your meal, you feast and swill, and at the last you and your guests leave mightily fulfilled and cared for.

b1513 Oct 16, 2007 5:57 pm

Every Friday night Mr b1513 and I go out with another couple for dinner, usually to a local Mexican restaurant. The waitress there has gotten to know us because we're there a lot and every so often she'll stand for a long time telling us about what is going on in her life. Last week she hit a deer. We heard every last detail. It makes me crazy, but I'm still polite because she's nice.

Kagehitokiri Oct 16, 2007 6:04 pm

ive seen this at plenty of casual places.

seems to me it would be even more common in more rural areas(smaller towns etc), but again its plenty common in DC metro at casual places.

its never bothered me at casual places, whether thats just good timing or they actually try and gauge whether it would be a bother i dont know. so that also makes it hard for me to try and remember if ive seen the same thing at casual places in other areas.

ive certainly never seen it anywhere at a nicer place.

violist Oct 16, 2007 8:08 pm

My friend Nicholas and I went to Dom's a couple years ago, after a
long, long hiatus. The guy sat down and (not recognizing us, as neither of
us had been there since his father [?] ran the joint) rather superciliously
gave us a bunch of incredibly palate-dead recommendations. We nodded
politely and ordered what we would have ordered anyhow. The food was
somewhat less than what it had been under Toni-Lee back in the 1970s
when it was the preeminent Italian restaurant in Boston; the rest of the
North End has since caught up and well surpassed it, so we haven't been
again. Terramia (where nobody cozies up to you at your table) is so
much better than Dom's I can't articulate it, and there are now places
nearby that are better still.

nam Oct 17, 2007 9:43 am

I would have reacted the same way. The Server is not an invited part of your party! I've never been to Outback and this gives me a goof reason for not going!

USirritated Oct 17, 2007 11:37 am


Originally Posted by nam (Post 8574474)
I would have reacted the same way. The Server is not an invited part of your party! I've never been to Outback and this gives me a goof reason for not going!

Oh it is not that bad! I have also been to other restaurants where the server sat down at the table, and I did not like it there either. I have probably been to Outback maybe 100 times or more, and a server has sat down at the table maybe twice. Clearly not enough to keep me from going back! The food at the location near my house in Fort Lauderdale is consistently good enough, especially the CREAMY ONION SOUP!!, to keep us coming back for more. There are other restaurants where I have only been once, where the server sat down at the table, AND the food was not good, so I would not go back, such as CARRABBA'S, YUCK!!

nam Oct 17, 2007 3:58 pm

Oh I must have misunderstood. It seems like in all of the posts about Outback this is a normal occurance. Maybe I will try them after all. But if the server decides to make themselves comfy how do you let them know politely that you don't appreciate them joining you?

USirritated Oct 17, 2007 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by nam (Post 8576892)
Oh I must have misunderstood. It seems like in all of the posts about Outback this is a normal occurance. Maybe I will try them after all. But if the server decides to make themselves comfy how do you let them know politely that you don't appreciate them joining you?

How about "W...T..F...? Who told you that you could sit down?" Just joking there!

My attitude on that would be that when we go to a restaurant, we are "renting" that space for a certain period of time. We are occupying that space, and no one has a right to enter that space, without our permission, during the time of our occupancy. How would you handle it if someone who you did not know walked into your house without your permission? How about if someone who you did not know started touching you?

At the very least, we would say "Excuse me!?!?!"

At the most we would say "You are trespassing and you must GTFON before I call the police!"

How you handle it between those two extremes depends on your personality and how badly you feel invaded I suppose. Does that seem fair?

anaggie Oct 17, 2007 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld (Post 8566137)
I won't be complaining if she was a looker :D

I recall some of the waitresses at Hooters does that all the time... it seems so.... personable :cool: I'd like to help them take a break from all that walkin' in those tight outfits :p

same here...and I Usually invite them to munch off my plate since they have been working and all...and I sure they get hungry...

boberonicus Oct 17, 2007 4:20 pm

I'm not an Outback fan. I think a server has to have a certain personality to sit at your table and avoid awkwardness. When a server sits at my table, my initial reaction is surprise. But if they have the right attitude, I think it can be a really charming way to break down the traditional roles of client and waitron. I almost always like it.

Italy98 Oct 17, 2007 4:22 pm

If it is someplace we frequent on a regular basis we don’t mind and sometimes encourage our server if they are not busy. I would not expect this to happen at Bones (http://www.bonesrestaurant.com/) nor The Williamsburg Inn® Regency Room (http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/...ncyDiningRoom/).

USirritated Oct 17, 2007 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by anaggie (Post 8577001)
same here...and I Usually invite them to munch off my plate since they have been working and all...and I sure they get hungry...

Yes, well, HOOTERS is an entirely different deal altogether......but then did anyone here see "9 to 5" with DOLLY PARTON, JANE FONDA, LILY TOMLIN and DABNEY COLEMAN? One of the best lines in the movie was when JANE FONDA described her boss, DABNEY COLEMAN as a "Sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical, bigot" There is such a thing as sexual harrassment, even at HOOTERS! (Just make sure your wives or girlfriends aren't around!)

anaggie Oct 17, 2007 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 8577042)
Yes, well, HOOTERS is an entirely different deal altogether......but then did anyone here see "9 to 5" with DOLLY PARTON, JANE FONDA, LILY TOMLIN and DABNEY COLEMAN? One of the best lines in the movie was when JANE FONDA described her boss, DABNEY COLEMAN as a "Sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical, bigot" There is such a thing as sexual harrassment, even at HOOTERS! (Just make sure your wives or girlfriends aren't around!)

the only time I go to a Hooters is when I am travelling on buisiness which means wife is not arouind.....I like to watch the sports there and the food is ok....

Beer is cold though !!!!

USirritated Oct 17, 2007 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by anaggie (Post 8577319)
the only time I go to a Hooters is when I am travelling on buisiness which means wife is not arouind.....I like to watch the sports there and the food is ok....

Beer is cold though !!!!

Isn't that a little bit like saying "I read PLAYBOY for the articles, columnists, and literary reviews?" ;) :D


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