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Internaut Apr 21, 2013 10:15 am

I've only really had one bad experience at a McDs and that was Wichita, KS. I spend a lot of time in the thirds world so I've encountered plenty of people who can't read or write (some of whom somehow managed to be multilingual) but this was first time I'd ever encountered an English speaking person who couldn't string words together in a conversation (might as well have been grunts). I ended up pointing.

WR Cage Apr 26, 2013 1:28 pm

In Canada/YYC, the McD's have all been renovated with the new McCafe standard inside. The Drive thru window now has two spots for taking orders where there only used to 1. Drivers now have to choose between left side or right side, each decision one hopes the car infront will have its act together and not ask millions and millions of questions about the menu choices. In one unlucky strike I got stuck behind a car that took 3 times longer than standard. :mad:

hiltonlondon2009 Apr 26, 2013 2:03 pm

If you think the service at McDs is bad, check out Taco Bell. Yeesh!

mikeef Apr 26, 2013 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by Dadaluma83 (Post 20614549)
I never expect good service at Mcdonalds or any fast food place. Just give me my order in a somewhat reasonable amount of time and I am good. I also never place complicated orders. I only order what is off the menu, no extra requests like no onions, etc because I have learned from past experience that personalized orders is an invitation for your whole order to be screwed up. Fast food is assembly line food, take what is on the menu and if you don't like it just pick it off.

Sad story, I once got a coupon in the junk mail for a buy one get one free whopper at Burger King. I never eat at burger king but I thought why not? So I place my order and use the coupon through the drive through. I was the only car in the drive through yet after paying for my food they still told me to pull up into a parking space and they would bring it out. Lame. :td: Why not just give me my food through the window? In any case a couple of minutes pass by and I get my food and go home. I eat the first whopper which was just a typical burger. Cheese, lettuce, tomato, etc. Then I get started on the next one and it was nothing but a piece of meat covered in ketchup between two buns. Nothing else. I know it was a free burger but sheesh at least throw a piece of lettuce on it or something. :td:

LOL another funny story one of my buddies had told me one day. He went to the drive through at Whataburger and ordered a whataburger with cheese only. Now when you hear that what do you think? You think of hamburger meat with cheese in between two buns. Well you guessed it, when he opened up his food when he got home all he had was literally a slice of cheese in between two buns. :eek:

Just remember what Leo Getz says.

Mike

PWMTrav Apr 26, 2013 6:34 pm

I live in Northern New England, but I'm not from here. Let me just say, the average fast food worker's attitude is incredible up here by comparison. I occasionally grab a coffee and egg mcmuffin at the drive thru before work and the two McD's along my route are both great - employees seem genuinely happy. Of course, it's a two way street and you're less likely to be treated like .... by the general public in Maine than, say, Philly where I grew up or DC where I spent the last 6 years.

CaptRobPhD Apr 28, 2013 3:16 pm

I go out of my way to visit every McDonalds I come across--even so far as having a Google Map pinned board [drive thrus don't count]. I'm not a McD food fanatic but it suits my professional travel pace and personal wallet and one thing is generally reliable: the menu, globally [save for soda refills]. I have noted some consistences in service: older workers tend to make fewer mistakes but move slower; younger troops tend to move fast but also socialize with coworkers more often; managers generally yell for orders back to front; cleanliness is inconsistent [poor Ray K--see QSCV] as is 'free' wifi; bathrooms are generally clean although not always free; Asians 'all business' and in the West more chatty; airport locations are cash cows and get my orders wrong most often; It's nice to have regional variation in food and I actually anticipate some of that in customer service as well [despite McD having a Western approach]. I am far less forgiving domestically about variations and have no qualm talking to a manager about weak product or service delivery: although many people say to them "I eat here [or at McD] all the time" and they probably think I'm giving them a line but I take comfort in me being correct...sometime I emphasize the number of times I've visited in the past month :) As long as there is large turnover, there will be inconsistencies due to learning curves; not sure about mentorship versus training for the hourly workers. I'm not sure how choosy McD is [or can 'afford to be'] for minimum wage, entry-level jobs but they could learn a bit from a much smaller peer: In-n-Out has spectacular service and are 99.5% in all aspects of operations from store to store.

I should be a Secret Shopper.

braslvr Apr 28, 2013 9:22 pm

In-N-Out pays a lot more than McDs.

MrColdShower Apr 30, 2013 8:36 am


Originally Posted by CaptRobPhD (Post 20666303)
I go out of my way to visit every McDonalds I come across--even so far as having a Google Map pinned board [drive thrus don't count]. I'm not a McD food fanatic but it suits my professional travel pace and personal wallet and one thing is generally reliable: the menu, globally [save for soda refills]. I have noted some consistences in service: older workers tend to make fewer mistakes but move slower; younger troops tend to move fast but also socialize with coworkers more often; managers generally yell for orders back to front; cleanliness is inconsistent [poor Ray K--see QSCV] as is 'free' wifi; bathrooms are generally clean although not always free; Asians 'all business' and in the West more chatty; airport locations are cash cows and get my orders wrong most often; It's nice to have regional variation in food and I actually anticipate some of that in customer service as well [despite McD having a Western approach]. I am far less forgiving domestically about variations and have no qualm talking to a manager about weak product or service delivery: although many people say to them "I eat here [or at McD] all the time" and they probably think I'm giving them a line but I take comfort in me being correct...sometime I emphasize the number of times I've visited in the past month :) As long as there is large turnover, there will be inconsistencies due to learning curves; not sure about mentorship versus training for the hourly workers. I'm not sure how choosy McD is [or can 'afford to be'] for minimum wage, entry-level jobs but they could learn a bit from a much smaller peer: In-n-Out has spectacular service and are 99.5% in all aspects of operations from store to store.

I should be a Secret Shopper.

Your post reminds me of an article that appeared in the WSJ in 1999. (You may need a subscription to view it.)

Like Fine Wine, a 'Collector' Visits McDonald's for Subtle Differences.

"These kinds of things make collecting exciting," Mr. Holden says as he orders a lunch of two Quarter Pounders with cheese -- no onions -- and a large Coke.

Collecting seems an odd way to characterize Mr. Holden's quixotic pursuit, but that's what he calls his quest to eat at as many different McDonald's restaurants as possible. "I'm not an oddball or weirdo," he declares, munching on his first Quarter Pounder. "I'm a collector of the McDonald's dining experience."

This store -- opened two months earlier and brought to his attention by a radio ad -- makes it 10,893 since he began counting, all of them in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean. That's roughly 80% of the company's 13,800 North American restaurants, though he says the percentage is actually higher because he ate at 1,000 or so before he started recording his visits.


Are you Peter Holden? :)

In any event, the McDonald's near my place of employment is good for a cup of coffee, since they offer it for a price ($1 + tax) that's much cheaper than anywhere else nearby. The problem is they insist on "pre-pouring" it into the cups to stay ahead of the rush. The coffee sits out and can get tepid. Trying to return it becomes a headache -- they often act like they are doing me the favor of a lifetime to replace it. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the time and hassle to deal with them anymore.

CaptRobPhD May 4, 2013 8:58 am

Not quite Mad but happy...
 
I wish I'd kept better track. I can visualize most of them I've been to in the past 5-7 years--meaning if in the same city I could renavigate with my internal GPS--but beyond that the locations and visits are fuzzy. Now visits are purposeful as well, versus incidental or happenstance previously and I expressly look for them wherever I go, even if just for a drop in soda/ice cream: I don't count drive-thrus :cool:

Letitride3c May 4, 2013 9:56 am

What we've noticed lately is that, regardless of whether it's a Micky D's, BK or Wendy's - lines are shorter & fewer crowds waiting = sales down, and one obvious reasons being that, prices are kind of crazy high (and, tha't speaking of airport/airside locations, which are known to charge a premium on top of their ripoff prices & NOT selling $1 coffee in all sizes) ... Heck, unless there are no choices - why would anyone spend $7 or $8 for a combo meal at these places.

The only time that we would look for a McD and/or similar fast food joint is when we are driving thru towns & places on the freeway/interstate highways - and planning for a restroom stop. Nowadays, some of the gas stations at rest areas and off the exit ramps offer equally clean & usable restrooms while the tank is getting filled, and some have 99 cents hotdog specials .... extra bonus points if they offer them with low sodium .

While standing at the cashier's counter, a quick glance behind their station at the work/assembly area and sometimes the kitchen floor nearby will tell a great deal on how much they valued their customers by earning for repeat businesses ....

Speaking of which, how often do you see a McD employee properly cleaning & wiping down the tables & chairs in between .... :rolleyes:

soarer May 4, 2013 10:53 am


Originally Posted by MrColdShower (Post 20675551)

In any event, the McDonald's near my place of employment is good for a cup of coffee, since they offer it for a price ($1 + tax) that's much cheaper than anywhere else nearby. The problem is they insist on "pre-pouring" it into the cups to stay ahead of the rush. The coffee sits out and can get tepid. Trying to return it becomes a headache -- they often act like they are doing me the favor of a lifetime to replace it. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the time and hassle to deal with them anymore.

I order my Big Macs with no pickle so they have to make it fresh , but I am sure sometimes they just open the box and pull off the pickles :(

Not sure how that will help with your coffee , maybe bring your own cup ?

MIT_SBM May 4, 2013 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 20615124)
Our McDs have those spaces as well.

Our local Wendy's location will, if you place an order that will take more than a minute or such, will ask you to pull ahead to the door, rather than sit at the window. They'll ask this even if there is not another car behind you. I've taken to refusing. It confuses them. I'm always polite, but when they say, "Can you pull forward?" I say no. If they say, "But the car behind you is waiting for their food," I say, "That's nice. I'm waiting for my food as well." :D

I too fall into this category. I do not get out of line at a drive thrus. I am polite about it but I don't go to the drive thru so that I can park. On the most recent occasion, at McDonald's, I simply told the window person that if the wait was so long that I would just take a refund and be on my way. My order appeared less than 15 seconds later.

flyboy60 May 7, 2013 1:20 pm

I'll be the contrarian, but IMHO, McDonalds remains one of the better of the fast food franchises in this regard. But of course, it is most likely also a function of the unemployment rate in the area of the individual franchise, and the attitude of the individual franchise owner.

A couple of the McDonalds stores near me make it a point to hire developmentally challenged workers - and invariably these folks go the extra mile to provide quality service, with a smile while they are doing so.

kipper May 15, 2013 6:01 am

McDonald's adding 3 new Quarter Pounders to menu
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcdona...160308861.html


NEW YORK (AP) -- McDonald's is adding three new Quarter Pounders to its menu as the fast-food chain looks to offer cheaper premium burgers while capitalizing on one of its most popular brands.

The company, based in Oak Brook, Ill., says the new burgers will replace its meatier Angus Third Pounders, which were among the most expensive items on its menu at around $4 to $5. The Quarter Pounders will come in two of the same varieties as the Angus burgers — Bacon and Cheese and Deluxe. The third option will be Habanero Ranch.
What struck me was later in the article:

Beyond fighting for price-conscious customers, traditional fast-food chains are also struggling with the more fundamental problem of changing eating habits. The worry is that people in their 20s and 30s in particular are increasingly heading to chains such as Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc., which offer food that's seen as being higher quality.

The desire to eat better is also reflected in the growth of Subway, which now has about 26,000 U.S. locations and positions itself as a healthier alternative to traditional fast food. To win back younger customers, McDonald's recently rolled out its chicken McWraps. A version of its Egg McMuffin made with egg whites and a whole grain muffin was also introduced.
I generally go to McDonald's when I'm in a huge hurry, need to eat in the car, and want something cheap. However, as I'm trying to really focus on healthy eating, I've found there's nothing there that meets my criteria. A salad is very difficult to eat in the car, and isn't cheap. If they tossed a few healthier options on their dollar menu, I'd consider it. I'd really appreciate it if I could get the egg white mcmuffin all day.

Gamecock May 15, 2013 6:15 am

I "eat" McDonalds"food" maybe 5 times a year.

I am not about to pay 5 dollars for a McDonalds burger.


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