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Weez Mar 5, 2011 7:24 pm

No it was definitely Brick lane for the bagels. I was working at the Homerton hospital in A&E in the early 90s and if it was busy (as it usually was) often the police would do a bagel run for us!

GadgetFreak Mar 5, 2011 11:36 pm

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You made me realize how fortunate I am. There are two places that make their own, plus another place that gets good ones delivered every morning; all within a 10 minute walk from my house. Not the "best" around but quite good.

uk1 Mar 6, 2011 12:29 am


Originally Posted by Weez (Post 15982436)
No it was definitely Brick lane for the bagels. I was working at the Homerton hospital in A&E in the early 90s and if it was busy (as it usually was) often the police would do a bagel run for us!

What a lot we have in common .... apart from Homerton Hospital that is .... I suspect A+E was a touch busy:D

Use to live at Barbican then Tottenham and I see you're currently west country .... well at this moment I'm looking at the waves lashing Goodrington and Brixham and contemplating the 303 back to Hampshire.

My favourite was the bagel place in Vallance Road. My recollection was that there wasn't a shop service as such so no fillings or butter .... you just bought them by the dozen at the door from the baker. Brick Lane has now become a destination in it's own right.

New York is so lucky with delis and bagels etc. Very envious. We have an abomination in the UK called New York Bagels. They're basically a plain bread mix .... a touch sweeter that has been boiled then baked ... but not the real thing. If you re-bake them then they become a mush.

But what happened to onion platzels? Never see them anywhere. I'm going to try and make some.

hard2please Mar 6, 2011 6:28 am

OK, I confess my first reaction to this thread was, WHAT? THEY HAVE BAGELS IN THE UK??? (born and raised in NYC, I've always felt like only WE had the real ones. And I haven't had a really good one since I left there over 20 years ago!)

And what IS an onion platzel anyway? Anything like a bialy?

nerd Mar 6, 2011 7:32 am


Originally Posted by hard2please (Post 15983900)
And what IS an onion platzel anyway? Anything like a bialy?

Wow - Flyertalk is high on Google's page rank. The second item in a search for "platzel" is this thread. :eek:

http://www.google.com/search?q=platzels

Is this the same as a pletzlach?

NY Times Recipe: Onion Flat Rolls (Pletzlach)

uk1 Mar 6, 2011 8:19 am


Originally Posted by hard2please (Post 15983900)
OK, I confess my first reaction to this thread was, WHAT? THEY HAVE BAGELS IN THE UK??? (born and raised in NYC, I've always felt like only WE had the real ones. And I haven't had a really good one since I left there over 20 years ago!)

And what IS an onion platzel anyway? Anything like a bialy?

Well ..... I think we probably had bagels in the UK earlier than the US as the influx of Jews after the pogroms arrived. Many of the people arriving in the Uk and Ireland thought they'd arrived in New York but they soon found their way to the East-end and Manchester. In fact I think I recently ate one of those original bagels.

The onion platzel is ... or was not really a flat anything. It was a crusty roll with a dimple in the top in which cooked onion was inserted. It was baked on stone and it had a sort of crunchy crispness to the rest of it as though some steam had been injected a bit like the crackling effect you get with a baguette.

This version doesn't look right because it's sort of high and batch baked and the ones I'm yearning for were seperate lower and had more crust surface - although the surface of these look nearly right. These look a bit better .... perhaps it's more a cross between the two.

They certainly aren't a variant of a bagel - an onion bagel has several variants one being onion seed and the other fried onion inside the actual dough mixture - sometimes with some dark onion little bits on the surface - so is completely different. The platzel has the onion just on the top in the dimple - pizza like.

nerd Mar 6, 2011 11:40 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 15984255)
This version doesn't look right because it's sort of high and batch baked and the ones I'm yearning for were seperate lower and had more crust surface - although the surface of these look nearly right. These look a bit better .... perhaps it's more a cross between the two.

Yeah - it looks like the term platzel is used more in the U.K. (run a Google search and most of the links are U.K.-related), whereas, for example, the term pletzlach would be used here in the States. I could be wrong, but it does appear that way.

bologna1767 Mar 6, 2011 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by dhammer53 (Post 15980823)
uk1,

On your next visit to NYC, I'd be happy to take you to bagel stores that you'll never hear about in guidebooks. ;) :p

dh

im probably out of line to ask this, but: is there any way we can turn this into a compare-and-contrast-bagel-tasting-mini-do? id love to tag along if im in town.... if not, no problem!

dhammer53 Mar 7, 2011 6:43 am


Originally Posted by bologna1767 (Post 15987485)
im probably out of line to ask this, but: is there any way we can turn this into a compare-and-contrast-bagel-tasting-mini-do? id love to tag along if im in town.... if not, no problem!

Sign up for the BRT (see signature) in the Community forum. I know of plenty of good bagel places in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

dchristiva Mar 7, 2011 7:51 am


Originally Posted by dhammer53 (Post 15988792)
Sign up for the BRT (see signature) in the Community forum. I know of plenty of good bagel places in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

What!? None in White Plains! How can that be?! :D

Okay, there must be at least one in Scarsdale, right? :D We gotta go to Brooklyn with you? :p

GadgetFreak Mar 7, 2011 8:12 am


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 15989142)
What!? None in White Plains! How can that be?! :D

Okay, there must be at least one in Scarsdale, right? :D We gotta go to Brooklyn with you? :p

It's all relative isn't it? Have a bagel in St. Louis (or on a UA flight) and the ones in White Plains will stand out. I dont want to get into the "best bagel" argument (as long as no one claims it is the place with the giant fluffy abominations), you can get great bagels in the whole area. Sure, some are a bit better or worse but with the exception noted above most are really excellent.

I have it on good authority that the best bagels are from Queens anyway ;)

uk1 Mar 7, 2011 8:58 am


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 15989142)
What!? None in White Plains! How can that be?! :D

Everyone knows that IBM'ers can no longer afford even a bagel.

hard2please Mar 7, 2011 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 15989269)
It's all relative isn't it? Have a bagel in St. Louis (or on a UA flight) and the ones in White Plains will stand out. I dont want to get into the "best bagel" argument (as long as no one claims it is the place with the giant fluffy abominations), you can get great bagels in the whole area. Sure, some are a bit better or worse but with the exception noted above most are really excellent.

I have it on good authority that the best bagels are from Queens anyway ;)

I'm from Queens, but I always found the best bagels in Brooklyn:D

And now I'm dying of curiousity-what is "the place with the giant fluffy abominations"?

dhammer53 Mar 7, 2011 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 15989269)

I have it on good authority that the best bagels are from Queens anyway ;)

TOS violation. :p

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