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Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 26057912)
Per Se just got a scathing review in the NYTimes, and the comments mostly support the rating.
Originally Posted by CGRA
(Post 26057744)
You're right : not yet the level to be a pizzeria
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In beverly hills : belvedere at the pen or wolwgang ? Thank you
Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 26060402)
I see, you are really in love:D Sometimes there is such a love with a place, I have some too.
I'll remember my time there for ever : couple seated next to us received a phone call from their kid saying that a stranger is in their home..., After several minutes I understood that it was a young child speaking about a ghost or similar |
Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 26057912)
Per Se just got a scathing review in the NYTimes, and the comments mostly support the rating.
As for the food - I've only been once, and it was excellent. That said, of the 3-star Michelins in NYC, it would not be my top choice, and certainly not at its current price point. |
If you had to choose one restaurant in Paris and London for a honeymoon, which would you select? I've been leaning towards Gordon Ramsay in London and Guy Savoy in Paris for our two big nights out. However, there are so many places that I really don't know which to choose.
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Originally Posted by sig05
(Post 26065390)
If you had to choose one restaurant in Paris and London for a honeymoon, which would you select? I've been leaning towards Gordon Ramsay in London and Guy Savoy in Paris for our two big nights out. However, there are so many places that I really don't know which to choose.
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Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26066059)
What is your criteria? Are you looking for a tasting menu, wine pairing, a la carte, etc.? Do you want the best food or the best upscale dining experience? There are indeed a multitude of places in London depending on what you are looking for. On the surface, I would say The Ledbury over Gordon Ramsay, but if you really want the three star Michelin experience with 5 waiters hovering around your table at all times, then it would be Gordon Ramsay.
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Originally Posted by sig05
(Post 26066827)
We are looking for a 3 Star experience with a tasting menu for at least one dinner in each city. For the remainder of our meals, I think we want a place with the best food where a local would go to celebrate a special occasion.
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Originally Posted by sig05
(Post 26066827)
We are looking for a 3 Star experience with a tasting menu for at least one dinner in each city. For the remainder of our meals, I think we want a place with the best food where a local would go to celebrate a special occasion.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 26068825)
Same answer as before (VivoPerLei). Ledbury if the trappings are not such important or you like a relaxed atmosphere. Gordon Ramsey (no clue about the new chef) or even Alain Ducasse (if food is not such important/ you donīt eat regulary at 3 star restaurants). Iīm also a big fan of Marcus Wareing but donīt know the new retaurant.
sig05, if you go with one of the three stars for dinner, my best advice to you would be to book The Ledbury or similar for lunch the next day or where convenient during your stay. London dining is an embarrassment of riches at the moment, and there are great lunch deals galore. You can have lunch at most of the two stars for bargain pricing, and most offer the full tasting menu for lunch if you want that as well. I often prefer lunch over dinner if having the tasting menu because I don't want to finish so late. At Le Gavroche all I could get was a 2130 table and they told me, don't worry, many customers finish at 0100. For me, that's late, especially when you need the tube to get home.
Originally Posted by sig05
(Post 26066827)
We are looking for a 3 Star experience with a tasting menu for at least one dinner in each city. For the remainder of our meals, I think we want a place with the best food where a local would go to celebrate a special occasion.
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I liked Hedone. It's not the 3-star experience of other restaurants, but i liked the food.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 26068825)
Same answer as before (VivoPerLei). Ledbury if the trappings are not such important or you like a relaxed atmosphere. Gordon Ramsey (no clue about the new chef) or even Alain Ducasse (if food is not such important/ you donīt eat regulary at 3 star restaurants). Iīm also a big fan of Marcus Wareing but donīt know the new retaurant.
Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26071197)
Yeah, that's about it unless he wants to trek out the Waterside Inn in Bray. For the purposes of FT research I'm going to eat at Alain Ducasse this year just so I can give it an honest opinion. Given sig05's desire for the full three star experience, and being on his honeymoon no less, maybe the Table Lumičre at Alain Ducasse would be his preference after all.
sig05, if you go with one of the three stars for dinner, my best advice to you would be to book The Ledbury or similar for lunch the next day or where convenient during your stay. London dining is an embarrassment of riches at the moment, and there are great lunch deals galore. You can have lunch at most of the two stars for bargain pricing, and most offer the full tasting menu for lunch if you want that as well. I often prefer lunch over dinner if having the tasting menu because I don't want to finish so late. At Le Gavroche all I could get was a 2130 table and they told me, don't worry, many customers finish at 0100. For me, that's late, especially when you need the tube to get home. Take a look at www.andyhayler.com if you want an exhaustive first-hand review of nearly every restaurant in London. Despite Mr. Hayler's strange obsession with Hedone, I usually find his reviews spot-on. He has probably also posted reviews of the better restaurants in Paris, but I haven't checked. |
Originally Posted by sig05
(Post 26075151)
... We appreciate the value in making memories, and whether that is slamming beers with the locals or eating caviar at a fine restaurant; we're fine either way. All we really care about is making memories together that we can share during our marriage - yes, corny I know.
Although central-and-eastern European cuisine may not be notable from an objective standpoint, one of my wife's favorite travel memories is buying a loaf of rustic bread from a babushka operating out of a shed in Belgrade; it cost us about 35 cents US, and it was delicious. But we also have fond memories of Michelin-star restaurants in France. And I still recall my first trip to Europe some 30 years ago, when I enjoyed a lunch of weisswurst and Gösser beer in the shadow of St. Stephen's in Vienna. Good times. |
Can I please get a recommendation for London? I love fine dining, but I can't stand paying a large bill for a meal that leaves you hungry and looking for a kebab shop afterwards. I've been extensively reading reviews, and many diners seem to complain that the portions at The Ledbury or Gordon Ramsay are not really large enough to leave a person feeling full. Any suggestions for a Michelin starred restaurant in London that won't leave you with hunger pangs would be most appreciated.
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Originally Posted by CurbedEnthusiasm
(Post 26079285)
Can I please get a recommendation for London? I love fine dining, but I can't stand paying a large bill for a meal that leaves you hungry and looking for a kebab shop afterwards. I've been extensively reading reviews, and many diners seem to complain that the portions at The Ledbury or Gordon Ramsay are not really large enough to leave a person feeling full. Any suggestions for a Michelin starred restaurant in London that won't leave you with hunger pangs would be most appreciated.
P.S. I had the (Vegetarian) Tasting, as I normally never take a normal menu. At Ledbury price difference is negligible |
Originally Posted by CurbedEnthusiasm
(Post 26079285)
Can I please get a recommendation for London? I love fine dining, but I can't stand paying a large bill for a meal that leaves you hungry and looking for a kebab shop afterwards. I've been extensively reading reviews, and many diners seem to complain that the portions at The Ledbury or Gordon Ramsay are not really large enough to leave a person feeling full. Any suggestions for a Michelin starred restaurant in London that won't leave you with hunger pangs would be most appreciated.
The Typing Room (couldn't finish - first and only time) Restaurant Story (at 3.5 hours, you will not leave hungry) The Five Fields The Greenhouse Here are five where I felt like I needed a cheeseburger afterwards: Dabbous (skimpiest of them all) Maze The Square (recent reviews seem to indicate they might have beefed up the portions) Hedone Dinner by Heston Blumenthal (no tasting menu but they do have a set lunch) |
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