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Originally Posted by 777 global mile hound
Is that a group of restaurants including units in London ?
I may be confusing it with something that sounds similar Do you mean Pret a Manger? |
Originally Posted by ExtrAAordinaire
Do you mean Pret a Manger?
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Originally Posted by ILuvParis
No, I think that's just "Paul," a chain of boulangeries, some of which are cafes, as well.
http://www.paul.fr/ |
Originally Posted by ExtrAAordinaire
I think you're right. I'd only seen Paul boulangeries in Paris, but apparently they're in the U.K. and U.S., too.
http://www.paul.fr/ PAUL has a network of over 250 sales outlets throughout France: in city centers, shopping-malls; railway stations; airports ; exhibition centers or parks; and motorway service areas. PAUL has more than 34 shops outwith France. These mini-embassies of PAUL French-style culture can be found in Spain, England (Britain ?), Holland, Turkey, Morocco, Lebanon, Kuwait, Dubai and Japan. There is also at least one at Heathrow - don't recall which terminal I saw it in. At any rate, good stuff! Why do I suddenly want a ham and cheese on a baguette with LOTS of beurre! |
I'd have to say Craft in NYC. Same guy as Gramercy Tavern, but the food was bland and uninspired.
I found the portions far too small, the mains incredibly boring (3 scallops in a complete lack of sauce), and the sides too overdone. However, the service was impeccable and the desserts were simply wonderful. Go for coffee and dessert, but skip the main meal. |
Originally Posted by dartagnan
I'd have to say Craft in NYC. Same guy as Gramercy Tavern, but the food was bland and uninspired.
I found the portions far too small, the mains incredibly boring (3 scallops in a complete lack of sauce), and the sides too overdone. However, the service was impeccable and the desserts were simply wonderful. Go for coffee and dessert, but skip the main meal. |
Avoid "Matsukaze" at Hilton Narita!
The presumably top-notch Matsukaze Japanese restaurant in the Hilton Narita - stark, bare, slow service (though the usual deferential stuff) and at the very best, the epitome of mediocrity in Japanese food :confused: . You can get better food almost anywhere on Omotesando between Narita san and the temple, at much better prices.
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Moe's in CVG C-Concourse
Ate there during long layover. Menu and ambiance looked reasonably good.
However, was served my burger on an obviously dirty plate. As I lifted the top of the bun to assemble the sandwich, I noticed the plate was caked with some dried-on yellow matter. Lot's of it. Smeared all over the place. There was absolutely nothing yellow involved with the fresh food I had ordered. I called over the waitress, explained the problem, and asked to send the food back. She asked if I wanted a new meal prepared, or if it would just be OK to put it on a new plate. Amazing. Got a fresh meal. They did nothing to make up for it. No offer to comp, or comp drink/dessert. Nothing. Not going back. |
Ben's in montreal, on maisonneuve between peel and mctavish. It's an overpriced tourist trap that hasn't been popular with montrealers in decades. Go to schwartz's on st-laurent for an authentic smoked meat experience.
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Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Thanks for the link - according to the website:
PAUL has a network of over 250 sales outlets throughout France: in city centers, shopping-malls; railway stations; airports ; exhibition centers or parks; and motorway service areas. PAUL has more than 34 shops outwith France. These mini-embassies of PAUL French-style culture can be found in Spain, England (Britain ?), Holland, Turkey, Morocco, Lebanon, Kuwait, Dubai and Japan. There is also at least one at Heathrow - don't recall which terminal I saw it in. At any rate, good stuff! Why do I suddenly want a ham and cheese on a baguette with LOTS of beurre! |
Originally Posted by oopsz
Ben's in montreal, on maisonneuve between peel and mctavish. It's an overpriced tourist trap that hasn't been popular with montrealers in decades. Go to schwartz's on st-laurent for an authentic smoked meat experience.
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Had dinner at Chez Omar in the Paris (3rd) last night. Great local place for couscous. Mmmm merguez!
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Originally Posted by prspad
Any place with the word "Chez" in the title!
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super size me
Originally Posted by luxury
After seeing "Super Size Me", a documentary about the filmaker eating nothing but McDonald's for 30 days straight I am hesitant to eat McDonaldd's or any other fast food chain restaurant ever again. The poor guy was starting to get liver problems along with other problems!!! :eek: :td:
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Originally Posted by luxury
While Ben's IS overpriced, if you like you smoked meat leaner Ben's is a better choice than Schwartz's which serve the artery clogging variety. Not cheap but very very good!! Of course, why would some eat smoked meat if is NOT the artery clogging variety??? :D There are extensive threads on this topic throughout FT for those interested. A search should reveal these quickly.
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Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Me too. I like Ben's. Like a trip back in time and the meat is great.
I like Schwartz's too but for my tastes, and for dietary necessity, I prefer Ben's. |
Originally Posted by peloton
My friends and family have a saying now, called "Getting Emeriled" for when a restaurant is high priced and expectations fail to be met so severely.
About 12 years ago NOLA in New Orleans was interesting, funky, and tasty. Last two trips have been a nightmare. Food partially frozen, stuff that doesn't belong together on a plate and nobody holding anything together service wise. The namesake restuarant in the Warehouse District was incredibly overpriced and much worse than many other restaurants within a 3 mile area. You can also "Get Emiriled" in Tokyo at Restaurant Chen in the Cerulean Tower Hotel (still my favorite Western style hotel in Japan). Chef Chen is the Chinese Iron Chef and this is a Szechuan restauarant. A meal is about US$85-100 per person, portions are miniscule, VERY oily, and just don't taste that good. About 4 years ago my family and I went to disney world and went to Emeril's restaurant on either Orlando or Universal Walk, can't remember which but we were very pleased. The service was exceptional, the atmosphere was great and we were very impressed with the food. Of course it was overpriced ($30-40 average entree price) but we just figured everything was that was apart of Disney or Universal would be. |
Originally Posted by flyinglan
Macaroni Grill
Terrible food. It seems to me they measure salt by cup. |
Originally Posted by sangster
About 4 years ago my family and I went to disney world and went to Emeril's restaurant on either Orlando or Universal Walk, can't remember which but we were very pleased. The service was exceptional, the atmosphere was great and we were very impressed with the food. Of course it was overpriced ($30-40 average entree price) but we just figured everything was that was apart of Disney or Universal would be.
We went to the Universal one about 1 year ago. Ordered the prix fixe menu degustation. We were so unimpressed with the items, each lacking something, that we left half-way through--paying our bill, of course. That was only the second time ever in my life I did that. |
Originally Posted by sangster
I totally agree with you. That movie scarred me for life, but in a good way of course! I will never eat any meat or fries at a fast food place again. If i have any i'll stick to a salad w/out dressing! I knew it was bad in the first place, but that movie really impacted me.
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Originally Posted by SkeptiCallie
You might change your mind if you received a salad like the one I received at a certain McDonald's in Calgary. Opened the top of the plastic container: Long, long hair draped from one side of the container to the other. Hard to have missed, since it was dark against the greenery. I guess on the positive side, the salad was obviously prepared in-store, but why couldn't the food handlers have worn hair nets? :confused:
That is so gross! Every wednesday my work eats at Mexico, a mexican (duh) restaurant for lunch and I found a fingernail in my water! :mad: I can no longer join them for lunch because I was so disgusted by it. I still get sick to my stomach thinking about it. So avoid MEXICO restaurants around the Virginia area. |
No Chains!
Town to town state to state, they're all the same - TGI McBennichilabeeGardenHut.
But, the be all end all most annoying place on the face of the planet has got to be Joe's Crab Shack. "Hi!! Welcome to Joe's Crab Shack!!! May I sing along with the songs being blared over the PA, make sort of weird hand gestures for no apparent reason in an attempt to be jovial and annoy the living s--t out of you today?!!!!" I'd rather gnaw on my own finger than eat there. I wandered in once because it was the only restaurant within walking distance of my hotel and walked out... changed somehow. |
I hate to admit that I often gravitate to familar chains when I'm in unfamilliar surroundings. Unfortunately, the ones I personally am familliar enough to avoid include these....
Applebee's: Usually not "bad" in the classic sense, although you can definitely get a bad meal here. More often they're just "undistinguished" and "boring". Carrabas: Arrogance meets blandness. Ruby Tuesdays: On balance everthing that's bad about Applebee's, although they sometimes do have a decent salad bar. Casey's (Canada): The weather outside isn't the only thing that's usually frozen! The clincher came a few year's ago when they were touting "USDA certified SELECT grade steaks" (that's a notch below the "Choice" usually found in chain supermarkets) Olive Garden: "Better living through chemistry" Houlihan's: I think they're trying to pass themselves off as an upscale version of TGI Friday's....which, to me anyway, is ridiculous. Garfunkel's (UK): They seem to be on a mission to serve meals bereft of any flavor (or flavour) whatsoever. Outback: Occasionally you can get a good meal here. But all too often it's just overpriced and overcooked. I usually just order a burger and tell them EXACTLY how I'd like it. Usually that approach produces a good result. For whatever its worth, a few I DO like.... Logan's Road House: The atmosphere gets a little annoying, but the food's usually pretty good. I think they're exclusive to the Southeast. Ryan's Steak House: Also in the southeast. These can get a little frantic and messy, but they have the best cheap salad bar/comfort food buffet on the planet! East Side Mario's (Canada): Casual basic Italian. Similar atmosphere to TGIF, but better food. As one manager told me, "You may not get a great meal in here, but you'll usually get a pretty damned good one". How true. Minestrone, salad, and hot loaf is always a good choice here when you're in a hurry at lunch time. Bonefish: Not many of 'em, but good, creatively prepared seafood...cheap! On the Border: Best of the tex-mex chains isn't saying much, but these folks seem to usually do a pretty decent job. One man's humble opinions. |
Originally Posted by Reevesis
Town to town state to state, they're all the same - TGI McBennichilabeeGardenHut.
But, the be all end all most annoying place on the face of the planet has got to be Joe's Crab Shack. "Hi!! Welcome to Joe's Crab Shack!!! May I sing along with the songs being blared over the PA, make sort of weird hand gestures for no apparent reason in an attempt to be jovial and annoy the living s--t out of you today?!!!!" I'd rather gnaw on my own finger than eat there. I wandered in once because it was the only restaurant within walking distance of my hotel and walked out... changed somehow. At least it wasn't like Bubba Gump's - good grief. Stop asking me stupid questions about a movie I saw once 10 years ago and just bring me my damn soup! |
Originally Posted by cyberdad
I hate to admit that I often gravitate to familar chains when I'm in unfamilliar surroundings. Unfortunately, the ones I personally am familliar enough to avoid include these....
Applebee's: Usually not "bad" in the classic sense, although you can definitely get a bad meal here. More often they're just "undistinguished" and "boring". Carrabas: Arrogance meets blandness. Ruby Tuesdays: On balance everthing that's bad about Applebee's, although they sometimes do have a decent salad bar. Casey's (Canada): The weather outside isn't the only thing that's usually frozen! The clincher came a few year's ago when they were touting "USDA certified SELECT grade steaks" (that's a notch below the "Choice" usually found in chain supermarkets) Olive Garden: "Better living through chemistry" Houlihan's: I think they're trying to pass themselves off as an upscale version of TGI Friday's....which, to me anyway, is ridiculous. Garfunkel's (UK): They seem to be on a mission to serve meals bereft of any flavor (or flavour) whatsoever. Outback: Occasionally you can get a good meal here. But all too often it's just overpriced and overcooked. I usually just order a burger and tell them EXACTLY how I'd like it. Usually that approach produces a good result. For whatever its worth, a few I DO like.... Logan's Road House: The atmosphere gets a little annoying, but the food's usually pretty good. I think they're exclusive to the Southeast. Ryan's Steak House: Also in the southeast. These can get a little frantic and messy, but they have the best cheap salad bar/comfort food buffet on the planet! East Side Mario's (Canada): Casual basic Italian. Similar atmosphere to TGIF, but better food. As one manager told me, "You may not get a great meal in here, but you'll usually get a pretty damned good one". How true. Minestrone, salad, and hot loaf is always a good choice here when you're in a hurry at lunch time. Bonefish: Not many of 'em, but good, creatively prepared seafood...cheap! On the Border: Best of the tex-mex chains isn't saying much, but these folks seem to usually do a pretty decent job. One man's humble opinions. Your comments about Applebee's, Olive Garden and On the Border are exactly on target IMO. |
If I'm alone I'll go to a place that has a good chance of being awful
rather than visit a chain, but I have enough friends who like chain food so I've experienced most of the ones that cyberdad describes. I agree with his characterizations except would reverse his judgments on Carrabba's (I've always had nice folks and garlicky if uninspired food) and Ruby's (just horrendous). |
I should clarify....
I confess Ryan's is a guilty pleasure...my comfort food fix! I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I get there in a typical year. I also admit I'm a sucker for their bannana pudding/vanilla wafers. And I do agree they can be gross...at least some of the older ones. The newer ones usually aren't bad, however. I've found them as far north as Des Moines, Cedar Rapids and Rockford, IL (and yes, I've been to the one in Springfield, IL). I also wouldn't say I like Ryan's "better" than Outback....its an apples and oranges comparison. Its just that I've had more than a few bad steaks at Outback, and I find them a tad overpriced. That said, I admit Outback is a nice place to unwind after a day on the road. I've also discovered that I can go away satisfied if I "build my own burger" there, which they're usually glad to do. I'm not much of a burger guy....but one of those built to my own specs with an ice cold "big bloke" and a good game on the tube can make for a pleasant way to end a long day on the road. True story.... My first trip to London several years ago and my wife insisted on me taking her to Sunday tea at the Ritz. As I suspected upfront, this is an excersize strictly for tourists. I think 100% of the customers were tourists. And if we want to talk about "overpriced"..... Anyway, the Lady at the table next to me was from Boston. She leaned over to me and said, "I don't know about you, but I'd rather be at an Outback Steakhouse". Okay, I hereby revise my list to replace "Outback" with "Lone Star", which tends to offer pedestrian fare with indifferent, if not surly, service. There. |
Originally Posted by cyberdad
For whatever its worth, a few I DO like....
Logan's Road House: The atmosphere gets a little annoying, but the food's usually pretty good. I think they're exclusive to the Southeast. Now the not-so good. I attempted to go to Logan's the other night, but the wait was an hour, and we were hungry, so we decided to try Smokey Bones' BBQ. While the food was about what I expcected for a chain BBQ place (expectations aren't that high, being from the South, where real BBQ is readily available), I found the pricing to be enough of a turnoff that I won't return. It's not that the food was expensive, but the "substite this for that costs extra" routine really made the meal become unenjoyable. It took three tries to get the bill correct. Perhaps this restaurant's location is just a bad-luck spot. One of the previous tenants was Joe's Crab shack. It didn't last long, and I would agree with the previous comments on it in this thread. Thinking about the previous tenants of this restaurant's location has reminded me of a question I've been meaining to ask here on FT. Several people have mentioned an airport restaurant called Cheers. We used to have a chain by that name in the Smokey Bones/Joes Crab shack building. This Cheers had a red and white logo and served really good burgers/fries/shakes type food. Both of its local locations closed about 10 years ago, but I still miss it. Is this the same chain people make reference to in airports here on FT? |
Great thread.
I would say Oya! in DC (http://www.oyadc.com) is the worst restaurant experience I have had in years. Maybe it's perfect for people who like sugar in everything. When the wine guy arrived (normally I would say sommelier, but here it's a wine guy), he shows me the bottle, then proceeds to break the cork. In a restaurant concerned with establishing a reputation, this would be a sign to get another bottle (especially since this was not a wine that is expensive in retail outlets). No, he visits his boss and they uncork the rest of it. He pours me a taste, no cork in it. Ok fine, they got lucky. Then he pours everyone else some wine, when he comes back to fill my glass he pours a good chunk of it on the table. :eek: My soup arrives, and they did say this was how it was served, not cold, but room temperature. Some horribly sweet, tepid squash soup thing with lobster. Not good, but I was trying something new. Previously, I had asked the waitress if the duck was a breast or if it was boney...she told me with bones so I ordered something else. Indeed, when my friends received their duck, no bones. Instead, I got the beef ribs, which were INCREDIBLY SWEET served on a bed of garlic-infused mashed something...OMG YUK! I cannot imagine a worse combination than sweet and garlicky. I had to conclude that this chef had no palate. Get Gordon Ramsay to visit and see what happens :D . The whole time the service was incredibly intrusive, they would always ask you before doing the expected. "Would you like some more wine?" "Would you like a spoon for your soup?" "Would you like some more water?" This is by far the worst restaurant I have been to in years. I can only imagine it will be frequented by twenty-somethings trying to impress their dates with sweet drinks, fancy decor, obsequious service and funny-tasting menu items that they can pretend to be impressed with. |
Originally Posted by mondo
. . . worst restaurant experience I have had in years. Maybe it's perfect for people who like sugar in everything.
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Originally Posted by SkeptiCallie
Sugar in anything except dessert is a sign of a chef who isn't. But if they put a fancy name on it, as you indicate, why, then, that makes it ALL RIGHT!
:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Not even sure it just works for the desserts. "Sugar," the restaurant in Chicago closed. They only did drinks and desserts. :)
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Originally Posted by anonplz
Was that the place on Belmont?
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Originally Posted by ILuvParis
No, sugar, it was on Kinzie. ;)
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Stay Away from Red Lion Diner in NJ at all costs!!!
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We went to eat at this Red Lion Diner and as we sat down my chair broke from underneath me and I fell backwards hit my head and hurt my back.So as I was getting up after this totally embarassing fall the hostess said to me maybe you would prefer a booth!!!!!!!!! What???? Do you really think I want to stay and eat here. No Thanks, The manager and the owner did nothing to see if I was injured or to even offer an appology.So when we got home I informed my daughter of what happened and so she called the Diner and spoke with the owner (Larry) My Daughter explained what happened and (Larry) said "Yeah and what do you want from me?" :confused: How about an appology for you crappy chair breaking under me. :mad: So my daughter hung up in shock and told me what he said and so we notified the BBB and we want everyone to know that RED LION DINER DOES NOT CARE OF THERE PATRONS SAFETY WHILE IN THERE PLACE OF BUSINESS!!!!!!!!! The only way this Diner stay's in business is because of us the consumer. Am I right we are the ones who are spending our money for good food and good service!!!!!! :( :( :( What would you do??? |
Tavern on the Green.
If you're a tourist visiting NY, stay away from this tacky, overpriced & disgusting place. |
Originally Posted by Wendyk
What would you do???
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Carl's Jr. I unfortunately stumbled upon my first one last year in Solvang, CA, and have to say that they serve the worst food I've ever tasted from a commercial establishment. The Mexican "Green Burrito" items were particularly atrocious, and I recall thinking at the time that I could've used the refried beans to fix the stucco on my house. I simply cannot understand why this chain is so popular with the public. :td:
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Originally Posted by prspad
Any place with the word "Chez" in the title!
Ah - I disagree - Chez Paul on Maui -- is a great French Restaurant Chez Paul Maui We visit this place on every visit and have never been disappointed. |
Originally Posted by ExecPlatinum_Lord
Ah - I disagree - Chez Paul on Maui -- is a great French Restaurant
Chez Paul Maui We visit this place on every visit and have never been disappointed. I've been there twice and don't particularly care for it -- there are much better French places in Chicago and San Fran -- but to each their own. |
Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Not even sure it just works for the desserts. "Sugar," the restaurant in Chicago closed. They only did drinks and desserts. :)
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