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catwings01 Feb 15, 2005 9:37 am


Originally Posted by flying_kittens
With one exception: Chez Panisse in Berkeley.


I would make my exception Chez Georges in Paris - a lovely little bistro. And we were very disappointed with Chez Panisse last year - very haughty service and the food was fine, but not wonderful.

leviferret Feb 15, 2005 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDB
OK - I have chime in with another over-rated NOLA restaurant - Commander's Palace. Went there for dinner and was extremely disappointed. Amateur service, average food, poor wine service (I was brought my glass of red wine, luke warm, in a glass that is meant for dessert wine, filled to the brim). They tried a lot of smoke and mirrors to make up for their short comings - calling us maam and sir a lot, having four servers show up at once with food that gets poured onto your plate tableside, but then no servers come by for almost an hour to check how we are doing. This restaurant may be a 'tradition' - but there is much better food and service to be had elsewhere in NOLA.

My wife and I enjoy Commander's Palace and try to eat there at least every other time we visit New Orleans. We find the food well prepared and the service outstanding. My wife enjoys Chardonny and I enjoy Merlot and we have had no compliants as to the way the wine has been served. We have commented many times regarding the service, they don't interrupt time and time again with questions, would you like this, how is that. It just seems as if they appear when needed taking care water, drinks, etc.

Maybe it was a bad night.

andre1970 Feb 15, 2005 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy
McDonalds, Burger King, TGIF, KFC...well you get the picture. Avoid most any chain restaurant.

As for others, it's hard to say. I try to quickly forget the bad ones so I can't really remember many. And by US standards there aren't any bad restaurants within perhaps 200 miles of where I live in Burgundy. ;)

Lucky you!

violist Feb 15, 2005 3:26 pm

My sweetie and I went to Tetsuya's a couple years back and
found some of the best food and certainly the best restaurant
experience of the young millennium. Beat the socks off Grange
(which had taken a dive, it appeared to me) and at least as
good as TFL, in the big-ticket department. Okay, the desserts
aren't the over-the-top fancy things, but who needs anything
like that after such a meal? I thanked the gastronomic deities
that I wasn't expected to plow through acres of sweetness
after the truffled spatchcock.

As far as Chez goes, I've always liked Chez Henri (Cambridge, US),
Auberge Chez Francois (Great Falls, US), Chez Maitre Paul
(Paris, FR), and Chez Bruce (Wandsworth, UK). There would
be others, but I can't think at the moment.

ElkeNorEast Feb 15, 2005 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by Nobbi
Amen!

My partner & I whilst on our annual Walt Disney World Vacation went to Emeril's Orlando. We chose the menu degustation. The food was so tasteless, parts even unappetizing that we actually left in the middle of the meal, after paying an outrageous sum, of course. That was a first for us!

is this the Emerils at CityWalk? We were staying at Royal Coconut Palms (or whatever that hotel is in the Universal complex) for an IT convention, four of us were starving... walking around, looking for somewhere to eat, someone picks Emeril's, so we go in to see if they have a table. Not terribly busy, but the "hostess" looked at us as if we had dog pooh on our faces. "You mean you DON'T have a reservation??" she asked stupidly, as we had just asked if they had a table for four. "Well, we usually don't take walk-ins, I will have to check..." she said sneeringly as we looked at her in confusion, wondering why a restaurant would turn down four hungry people when no one was waiting around for a table at 9ish on a Tuesday night, and there were many many tables free. Finally she came back and attempted to seat us at a really crap table by the server station, at which I balked - she got even more foul-tempered when I asked if we could have a nicer table we had walked by. She begrudgingly seated us there, and said - I loved this - "in the future, you might want to think about making reservations if you want to eat at an Emeril's restaurant, ok?" to which a particularly witty member of our group replied, "oh thank you for the tip, but I don't think we'll be dining in another Emeril's again, dearie."

Every single one of our four different entrees was the same shade of brown. Some were runnier than others. We even asked the waiter how he could tell them apart. He said a lot of people asked him that. They even tasted brown.

We decided not to return. Ever. Avoid, please.

daph Feb 15, 2005 11:10 pm

Emeril has spread himself way too thin!

prspad Feb 16, 2005 9:14 am


Originally Posted by daph
Emeril has spread himself way too thin!

As has Alice Waters, IMHO. She is the doyenne of "California Cooking," and historically a deserved icon... However, Chez Panisse isn't what it used to be, though I'm sure that others will disagree.

remyontheroad Feb 16, 2005 10:26 am

Here are two for the Int'l list-

1. Kizkulesi, or Maiden Tower -the restaurant on this island in the middle of the Bosporus in Istanbul was laughably bad.
The food looked like it was well "executive chef-ed," but very very poorly executed. And it was not cheap, but I guess once they get you on the boat, you are trapped.
(I would recommend going over to get a drink at the bar on top of the tower, though...nice view)

2.Hostellerie de l'Abbaye de la Celle - This is Alain Ducasse's country inn in Provence. We thought it would be a nice way to sample M. Ducasse's cooking, but were very disappointed. Staff, setting and presentation were lovely, but the food was simply not up to the level we had hoped and certainly not as good as many other less-known chefs in the region. Really just disappointing.

Don in LA Feb 18, 2005 12:42 pm

This is a great story!
 
OK, putting aside food for a moment, you all have to read this story about a restauranteur here in Los Angeles. If foul words offend you, maybe you shouldn't click on the link.

This is a classic that has been making the rounds here in LA for a month or so.

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/printme.php?eid=60512

work2fly Feb 18, 2005 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick
That's so unfortunate. I used to eat at Postrio quite often in the early 90's when I had a project in Berkeley and used to stay upstairs at the Kimpton Prescott. Postrio did the room service which was always very good, and they did a good breakfast. It's a shame if it's gone down hill over the last ten years since my last visit, but I'm not surprised now that Wolfgang Puck is selling canned soup...

The original Postrio folks left and started Town Hall. I've been there several times and it's quite good.

MadTheologian Feb 19, 2005 10:05 am


Originally Posted by ThWilmesi
On the American Continent, my biggest disappointment was Charlie Trotters in Chicago, which is supposed to be one of the best on the continent, but which in our opinion didn't live to the hype, in particular with regard to service and food, they really feel they are the greatest in the world, but hey they aren't and I will not even comment about the prices

Blast! Mr Theologian and I are planning to head out there for an anniversary dinner some time from now, as I've read so much about Trotter and the wine cellar. I have one of his cookbooks, which I am hoping he'd autograph one day. :( We did tried Vivere at the Italian Village and the service was crappy.

Mrs. DAG Feb 19, 2005 1:38 pm

Avoid Nam Long in Old Brompton RD.
 

Originally Posted by luxury
I have some more, this time in London (no surprises here!!):

Itsu in Wardour Street: They claim to serve "Japanese" food, e.g. "sushi" on kaiten-style conveyor belts. The food is passable at best, most certainly NOT authentically (for London) Japanese, and not really sushi either. However, if you are after conviviality and don't care about food then this may be the place. If you want Japanese or even Japanesey food, this is not the place. I should note I am of Japanese heritage so I tend to judge Japanese food in a somewhat harsher light.

ToTo's off Walton Street in Knightsbridge: Way over-priced Italian food (a theme of Italian restaurants in London it seems) of average quality. I felt that I could make what I ate better myself. Portions were of average size but the dining room is a spectacular setting, only, if, one can get seated there. We were relegated to the entry way of the restaurant. I would recommend Scalini (nearby in Walton Street) or Locanda Locatelli (Portman Square in the Hyatt Regency Churchill) as better places for italian food.

I am sure I can think of more in London...... will post them as I remember them..... ;)


cubbie Feb 19, 2005 11:55 pm

I cast an enthusiastic vote in support of Emeril -- I ate lunch at the bar that looks into the kitchen at his Emeril's restaurant in New Orleans, and my date and I had a fantastic meal. The service was great too. It was the highlight of our trip.

I recently missed a chance to be in LAS long enough to go to one of his restaurants there, either seafood or steak. If the choice comes up again, I'm open to suggestions on which one I should try first.

I have had the same experience as some other posters with the Legal Sea Foods in DCA. It's good food but I always feel I have to hound them to bring the drink, bring the food, and bring the bill in order to get to my gate on time.

cubbie :cool:

lalala Feb 21, 2005 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by flying_kittens
With one exception: Chez Panisse in Berkeley.

As much as I adore the restaurant downstairs, I've had pretty mediocre service and food upstairs, it can get mighty loud at lunchtime.

lala

michele123 Mar 3, 2005 2:27 pm

Bad Restaurants in Vancouver
 
VANCOUVER - Do not go to Sui Sha Ya. Service sucks, (esp. when they are busy for all-u-can-eat-sushi) and food not that great. Your order will get 'technically lost' once you're there for more than 1/2 hour.

Samosa Garden on Kingsway, I don't know why they were rated excellent for service. I only go there for the good food but it takes AGES for the plate to get to your table. Buffet's a bit of a hit and miss - mostly veggies even though they claim they've got tons of meat on their menu. Suggest you walk in and get a good look at the buffet before sitting down. http://www.samosagarden.com

Banana Leaf on Denman Street. Terrible food fare. Service ok but not that great. I don't think the cooks are from Malaysia. Banana Leaf on W. Broadway is so much better.

White Spot - any bloody White Spot in Canada. What's there to say? Food is greasy! greasy! greasy! I ordered mashed potato and the rosemary garnish that came with it had dirt. Disgusting! The manager was polite though, took the dish off the bill but I wouldn't step into any White Spot.

Cannery Restaurant, Commissoner St - for all the hype, it doesn't do it much justice. I don't know why ppl think this restaurant is worth going to. I've been disappointed time and time again. I ordered the swordfish and it was sooooo dry and tasteless. For the price you pay, definitely not worth it. And what's with the darkness? Can't see a frigging thing. I know they're supposed to create a romantic atmosphere but man, there's something wrong when you have to use the candle to read the menu. Service is top notch though. http://www.canneryseafood.com

Tanpopo, Denman St - Terrible! Terrible! Terrible! They have this all-u-can-eat sushi buffet that is not even worth paying $1 to try. Virtually everything I ordered off the menu was a disappointment. The only thing worth going for is the salmon sashimi - there's no limit even for lunchtime.

airdiva1 Mar 4, 2005 6:18 am


Originally Posted by Fredd
Interesting! We've eaten there a total of four times over the past four years in Minnesota, Florida, and British Columbia and haven't noticed that. Was this in one location that you experienced this or an overall perception?


I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with Macaroni Grille. I've eaten at one in upstate NY and in PA. Actually plan on going again hopefully sometime soon. A friend of mine hated it, but thought they used too much sauce. My friend is also extremely picky ;)

TRAVELSIG Mar 4, 2005 6:37 am

Harry's Bar in Venice- go for a drink (please please NOT a Bellini)- that is nice.... but a meal is a terrible way to spend a couple of hundred euros (or more) in a city with (otherwise) fantastic food.

david55 Mar 4, 2005 6:42 am


Originally Posted by michele123
VANCOUVER -
Banana Leaf on Denman Street. Terrible food fare. Service ok but not that great. I don't think the cooks are from Malaysia. Banana Leaf on W. Broadway is so much better.


Couldn't agree with you more.... we had two nights in Vancouver and ate there one night after a strong Frommer's recommendation since it was close to the hotel...very disappointed.

Did have a FABULOUS meal at a restaurant that we just sort of stumbled into called Wild Rice near the International district.....the owner was friendly and the food was out of this world......

BoSoxFan45 Mar 4, 2005 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by cubbie
I have had the same experience as some other posters with the Legal Sea Foods in DCA. It's good food but I always feel I have to hound them to bring the drink, bring the food, and bring the bill in order to get to my gate on time.

cubbie :cool:


I have had the misfortune of eating at BOTH Legal Seafoods in DC. Service was consistently bad, and the food was overpriced and medicore.

michele123 Mar 4, 2005 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by david4455
Did have a FABULOUS meal at a restaurant that we just sort of stumbled into called Wild Rice near the International district.....the owner was friendly and the food was out of this world......

Yeah, Wild Rice rocks!!! :D http://www.wildricevancouver.com

livefromtuscany Mar 6, 2005 6:39 am

AVOID most of the 2 or 3 michelin star restaurants in italy - they're just overpriced and desperately trying to copy the french style, at which they don't succeed at all. Examples:

La Pergola (@Cavalieri Hilton) in Rome: Despite the german chef and 3 stars, nothing but uncreative and expensive, service makes a big fuss about everything, guests are just tourists

Il Desco in Verona: same thing: big service theatre in the restaurant, nothing special out of the kitchen -and again just nightmare prices

Athena53 Mar 6, 2005 7:55 am


Originally Posted by prspad
Any place with the word "Chez" in the title!

Not always. Comme Chez Soi In Brussels is supposed to be very good.

L1011toHNL Mar 9, 2005 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by adamak
I'll pick Jumbo (that boat thing) in Hong Kong. It's on every guidebooks, but this is a total tourist trap. If you want Egg Fu Young and another American takeout food, then by all means go there. But in HK, you can get great food anywhere else. Even at touristy places. No need to waste your hard earn money here.


Horrible! My travel companion got severe food poisoning there which ruined the remainder of an otherwise wonderful trip. We both agreed that, while beautiful, it was dreadfully crowded and mediocre.

L1011toHNL Mar 9, 2005 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by flyinglan
Macaroni Grill
Terrible food. It seems to me they measure salt by cup.

You made me laugh. That sums it up almost perfectly. Add "and burn everything" and you've achieved perfection!

USAFAN Mar 9, 2005 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by violist
As far as Chez goes, I've always liked .... Chez Maitre Paul
(Paris, FR)....

Chez Maitre-Paul, 2 rue Monsieur-le-Prince, 6th
The restaurant is nice, typical French bistro, our food was O.K., but not great. I had Cocq ou Vin (Poulet au Vin Jaune), Mrs. USAFAN Steak Frites...both not tender.

However, Chez Maitre-Paul is NOT a restaurant to avoid ...

BMWcouple Mar 10, 2005 5:00 pm

Eddies Steakhouse in Oklahoma City. Dry, tough steak served with an equally dry, tough potato, and then charged $25 each.

Avoid Olive Garden's alltogether. All the food comes prepackaged like one of those Kraft Pasta Anytime meals. ughhhhhhh
I'm sure I will think of more later.

53flyer Mar 20, 2005 11:28 am


Originally Posted by catwings01
I would make my exception Chez Georges in Paris - a lovely little bistro. And we were very disappointed with Chez Panisse last year - very haughty service and the food was fine, but not wonderful.

Thanks for your input, I have reservations at Chez Georges on Monday night to celebrate my wifes' birthday and first visit to Paris. Hope it lives up to it's reputation.

joie_de_vie Mar 21, 2005 11:20 am

Venice Restaurants
 

Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
Harry's Bar in Venice- go for a drink (please please NOT a Bellini)- that is nice.... but a meal is a terrible way to spend a couple of hundred euros (or more) in a city with (otherwise) fantastic food.

TRAVELSIG,
I would love if it you would post the names of those restaurants in Venice - perhaps on the Dining-Europe forum - that have "fantastic food". I've had, with only a couple of exceptions, mediocre to downright terrible meals there.

fduvall Mar 26, 2005 9:59 am

Deleted - Already said a few times...

RustyC Mar 26, 2005 8:56 pm

JOLLIBEE in the Philippines. Also that Greenwich Pizza chain place...really bad.

And if you don't like KFC, Burger King or Wendy's in the U.S., then you REALLY won't like them in other places where the quality slips. McDonald's makes much greater efforts than these places to try to keep quality consistent.

K-Paul's in its heyday was a turnoff with mandated minimum checks and community seating.

Perry's Smorgy in Waikiki also seems way lame for the amount of business it gets. Location, location, location.

Oh, and those FEBO places in Amsterdam. The thought of getting some pasty croquet from one can almost make me lose dinner.

Strawb Mar 27, 2005 4:46 pm

Angus Steakhouses in London are probably the most revolting restaurants in London and to be avoided at all costs. They have several restaurants strategically positioned in and around the tourist areas of central London (Leicester Square, Piccadilly, Knightsbridge to name a few) that lure unwitting tourists in. Serving so-called "American" cuisine that is tasteless, overpriced and
boring. I'd rather go hungry than dine in there. Fortunately, London has an abundance of better quality restaurants and you'd be better off eating practically anything else. And don't you just hate those paper napkins in each wine glass when you walk pass one? Ugh!

Green Dragon Mar 28, 2005 1:49 pm

I don't recall where I read it (perhaps the Fodors boards?) but there is a LARGE amount of people who agree with you on Angus... the consensus is that the place is overpriced, the food quality is TERRIBLE and not worth a dime.

That being said...

I guess my standards must be lower, but I enjoyed the one time I went to Macaroni Grille (in Fort Lauderdale) and Legal Seafood (in Palm Beach)... I found the food delicious, the service fine (a little slow on Legal, but not terribly so), and the desserts sublime.

Of course, I wasn't paying for either meal, that may make a difference! (was a guest both times)

Blumie Mar 30, 2005 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDB
OK - I have chime in with another over-rated NOLA restaurant - Commander's Palace. Went there for dinner and was extremely disappointed. Amateur service, average food, poor wine service (I was brought my glass of red wine, luke warm, in a glass that is meant for dessert wine, filled to the brim). They tried a lot of smoke and mirrors to make up for their short comings - calling us maam and sir a lot, having four servers show up at once with food that gets poured onto your plate tableside, but then no servers come by for almost an hour to check how we are doing. This restaurant may be a 'tradition' - but there is much better food and service to be had elsewhere in NOLA.

I have been going to New Orleans for almost 20 years and have many favorite restaurants, but I have never been able to figure out what the big deal about Commander's is. My experiences have been much like yours. It's just nothing special.

blueDC Mar 30, 2005 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by Blumie
I have been going to New Orleans for almost 20 years and have many favorite restaurants, but I have never been able to figure out what the big deal about Commander's is. My experiences have been much like yours. It's just nothing special.


We were at Commander's for Easter Sunday Jazz Brunch this past weekend and food was great but service was outstanding. They refilled out coffees and waters (and bloody marys :D ) continuously. We must've drank a gallon of each considering how hungover we were. And all this while the restaurant was packed for the 3 hours we were there. No complaints. The food is hit or miss though, definitely ask the waiter for suggestions.

I don't think I've ever had a bad experience in N'Awlins (August, Stella's, Herbsaint, Bayona, Acme, etc.).

777 global mile hound Apr 14, 2005 6:59 pm

Legal Sea Foods is a classic destination restaurant
 

Originally Posted by scubadiver
Legal Sea Food in DCA. Met me bride when she flew in. Parked her in LSF whilst I got her checked bags. When I got back to LSF she had still gotten neither drink nor even a menu.

We ate at Wool Lae Oak that night.

By and large Legal Sea Foods has a stellar record for customer service at every one of it's units.
On a given day they drop the ball like any restaurant.
But let me say they are a company driven to obsession with having the freshest seafood prepared to the highest standards.

I have been dining in a multitude of their numerous units for over 15 years and they deliver more consistently then the lions share of establishments nationwide.
Should you have a problem I can tell you that they will take swift steps to correct the situation above and beyond.
Simply contact a manager in house or contact me and I will give you the information directly to their corporate consumer affairs who has some of the finast professionals in the buisness looking after quality control in every one of their units.
Legal Sea Foods is a US legend :-: :-: :-: :-:
Don't miss a chance to dine on their pear salad a boiled lobster or lobster roll
I love their food ^
FYI I am surprised to hear about your experience very unusual

ILuvParis Apr 15, 2005 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by blueDC
We were at Commander's for Easter Sunday Jazz Brunch this past weekend and food was great but service was outstanding. They refilled out coffees and waters (and bloody marys :D ) continuously. We must've drank a gallon of each considering how hungover we were. And all this while the restaurant was packed for the 3 hours we were there. No complaints. The food is hit or miss though, definitely ask the waiter for suggestions.

Am I the only one who finds it annoying to have my water glass filled to the brim every time I take a sip?

My vote for avoiding everywhere is Buca de Beppo. Lots and lots of mediocre food.

Another ^ here for Chez Maitre Paul in Paris.

777 global mile hound Apr 15, 2005 9:38 pm

[QUOTE=ILuvParis]Am I the only one who finds it annoying to have my water glass filled to the brim every time I take a sip?

Or it filled with 98% ice and one sip of water :(
Had to chime in here it was the 77th post here
They don't call me 777 for nothing ;)

777 global mile hound Apr 15, 2005 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by USAFAN
Chez Maitre-Paul, 2 rue Monsieur-le-Prince, 6th
The restaurant is nice, typical French bistro, our food was O.K., but not great. I had Cocq ou Vin

However, Chez Maitre-Paul is NOT a restaurant to avoid ...

Is that a group of restaurants including units in London ?
I may be confusing it with something that sounds similar

USAFAN Apr 16, 2005 10:52 am

Buenos Aires, Argentina

Don't go to La Cabaña :td: , Rodriguez Peña 1967. It's a tourist trap. Our food (lomo and baby beef) was lousy, the service was bad too ... spoiled our whole evening. This restaurant belongs to the Orient Express Comp.?? This restaurant was recommended in a newspaper :mad:

JHattery Apr 16, 2005 12:26 pm

Bad - Macaroni Grill in AGS - was actually served food there on obviously dirty plates. Grime/residue baked on. Told manager I would never ever come back. He gave me some coupons....

Bad - Househunting in CLE with spouse, decided to try a "family" oriented place in prep for family being there. Went to MAD CACTUS in Strongsville, as supposed Mexican place. First place wife or I could ever remember where food was completely inedible.

Bad - Hard Rock Cafe, anywhere. However, after a few weeks "in country" somewhere, a cheeseburger and a Bud there goes down well!

Really Bad - Pizza Hut in Xiamen, China. Not my choice, taqken there by a supplier quite proud of their new western restaurant. Got sicker from than meal than I've ever been.

Good - Pomeroy's in Strongsville and Mallorca in downtown CLE, Old Hickory in DAY, The Snug in AGS, others all over the world I neglected to write down. I'll pay more attention and refer on this thread.

EDIT - GOOD: Forgot to mention FAHRENHEIT in CLE. Very interesting presentations with excellent winelist, service, and food.


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