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gfunkdave Jun 9, 2020 7:47 am

Whole milk
 
For some reason our grocery store has only been carrying whole milk from the local dairy whose milk I usually buy. I bought a half gallon last time and have been putting it in my cereal and coffee. It's soooo good. Usually I buy 2% or oat milk (how do you milk an oat? :D)

LondonElite Jun 9, 2020 7:50 am

I go with organic 3.8% whole milk. Delicious. The watery stuff just isn't nice.

gaobest Jun 9, 2020 8:31 am

I only drink oat milk with coffee but have organic 2% for our child.

JBord Jun 9, 2020 9:06 am


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 32442161)
I go with organic 3.8% whole milk. Delicious. The watery stuff just isn't nice.

I don't drink milk straight, ever. But for cooking or putting in coffee, whole milk is far superior in taste and consistency (or is the word I should use viscosity?). Skim/fat free milk, in particular, is vile. I'm not sure when whole milk, or even 2%, was vilified, but I've never understood it. Probably done by the same people who won't eat dark poultry meat because of "all the fat". :rolleyes:

lhrsfo Jun 9, 2020 9:10 am

I always have whole milk. Normally it's just in tea where perhaps it is not so vital but occasionally I eat cereal or porridge and the watery stuff is disgusting in those.

JMorgana Jun 9, 2020 9:48 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 32442145)
For some reason our grocery store has only been carrying whole milk from the local dairy whose milk I usually buy. I bought a half gallon last time and have been putting it in my cereal and coffee. It's soooo good. Usually I buy 2% or oat milk (how do you milk an oat? :D)

I was raised on skim milk and to me, whole milk just tastes too heavy. Definitely a noticeable flavor difference, so I'd probably cook with whole or 2%, but I always drink skim.

gaobest Jun 9, 2020 9:59 am


Originally Posted by JMorgana (Post 32442440)
I was raised on skim milk and to me, whole milk just tastes too heavy. Definitely a noticeable flavor difference, so I'd probably cook with whole or 2%, but I always drink skim.

with ice?
I’ll even enjoy any white milk with ice.

I use 2% for baking and maybe I should get some whole milk for baking.

JMorgana Jun 9, 2020 10:49 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32442465)
with ice?
I’ll even enjoy any white milk with ice.

I use 2% for baking and maybe I should get some whole milk for baking.

No ice unless it's mixed with something. I'm OK with the consistency but I have no desire to make it worse. :D

LondonElite Jun 9, 2020 3:00 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32442363)
I always have whole milk. Normally it's just in tea where perhaps it is not so vital but occasionally I eat cereal or porridge and the watery stuff is disgusting in those.

Milk in tea, oh dear...;)

corky Jun 9, 2020 5:18 pm

Ice in milk?? Ewww

gaobest Jun 9, 2020 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 32443160)
Milk in tea, oh dear...;)

I think it’s a uk thing


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32443507)
Ice in milk?? Ewww

the ice adds a nicely extreme cold feature


Originally Posted by JMorgana (Post 32442620)
No ice unless it's mixed with something. I'm OK with the consistency but I have no desire to make it worse. :D

I used to have Licor Cuarenta y Tres with milk and ice; then switched to oat milk but now I’m out. I have Amaretto so use that with oat milk & ice

BigLar Jun 9, 2020 9:17 pm

I never liked skim milk. I grew up on whole milk, but for some reason we switched to 2%. I like it fine - whole milk almost has the mouth feel of cream, so that's a treat whenever I have it.

When I was trying to lose weight, I thought about skim milk on my breakfast cereal. It turned out that, as long as it was ice cold, it was fine. Still a no-go for drinking though.

work2fly Jun 10, 2020 1:21 pm

As an adult, I rarely drink milk by the glass - maybe alongside a cookie or brownie, and I like a little dairy something with my coffee.

When we had kids, we started them on whole milk but after a few years our pediatrician told us to switch to no more than 2% fat. Given how much milk they drink, I get it, but selfishly wish we were still using whole, as I think it's far superior for the few ways I use it.

ILuvParis Jun 10, 2020 1:37 pm

I generally drink 2%, occasionally whole if there is some left over from something I've cooked, but blue skim is really unappetizing. Occasionally, I'll drink a pint of it (if I can't see it) with a pastry bought on the fly.

gaobest Jun 10, 2020 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by work2fly (Post 32445715)
When we had kids, we started them on whole milk but after a few years our pediatrician told us to switch to no more than 2% fat. Given how much milk they drink, I get it, but selfishly wish we were still using whole, as I think it's far superior for the few ways I use it.

Could you have both 2% and whole?

we have 2%, fairlife chocolate, fairlife white, Chobani oat, and a backup Silk oat (on sale!). I’m thinking of getting Whole now for the roll-ppang buns.

lhrsfo Jun 11, 2020 8:42 am

I thought drinking milk was only for children who need the calcium. But adults?? To me, that's just weird.

gaobest Jun 11, 2020 8:46 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32447850)
I thought drinking milk was only for children who need the calcium. But adults?? To me, that's just weird.

it’s yummy with chocolate cake and certain liquors. Plus cereal! Ooh and cookies!

ILuvParis Jun 11, 2020 9:41 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32447861)
it’s yummy with chocolate cake and certain liquors. Plus cereal! Ooh and cookies!

Most things sweet call for ice cream, whipped cream or milk. :D. I'm not a coffee drinker, so I gravitate toward milk with pastries, etc. I don't drink it "plain," however.

gaobest Jun 11, 2020 10:22 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32448046)
Most things sweet call for ice cream, whipped cream or milk. :D. I'm not a coffee drinker, so I gravitate toward milk with pastries, etc. I don't drink it "plain," however.

how do you drink your milk, if not plain? Do you mean that you have it in a glass or with ice or a spoon?

ILuvParis Jun 11, 2020 10:26 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32448185)
how do you drink your milk, if not plain? Do you mean that you have it in a glass or with ice or a spoon?

Sorry, I meant I don't just drink a glass of milk. I need cookies, a pastry or something else to go with it.

gaobest Jun 11, 2020 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32448203)
Sorry, I meant I don't just drink a glass of milk. I need cookies, a pastry or something else to go with it.

adult cookies or just regular cookies? How about tobacco?

ILuvParis Jun 11, 2020 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32449129)
adult cookies or just regular cookies? How about tobacco?

Now, I'm the confused one.

BuildingMyBento Jun 12, 2020 10:24 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32443851)
I think it’s a uk thing


the ice adds a nicely extreme cold feature


I used to have Licor Cuarenta y Tres with milk and ice; then switched to oat milk but now I’m out. I have Amaretto so use that with oat milk & ice

I briefly got into milk tea in China.

As for licor 43, that stuff is good with espresso; in Mexico, it's called a carajillo.

gaobest Jun 12, 2020 10:30 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32449780)
Now, I'm the confused one.

sorry pal - just being cheeky

I’m getting whole milk for the baking recipes that call for it. It’ll be interesting to see if there are differences!

Taikucing Jun 29, 2020 7:46 am

Whole milk

The Case Against Low-fat Milk Is Stronger Than Ever




In fact, in a separate study published in the American Journal of Nutrition, another group analyzed the effects of full fat and low fat dairy on obesity and found that among 18,438 women in the Women’s Health Study, those who consumed the most high-fat dairy products lowered their risk of being overweight of obese by 8%.

Together, the body of data is beginning to reveal both that full-fat dairy has a place in a healthy diet, and also how focusing on one nutrient in the diet may backfire. When dietary guidelines began urging people to lower the amount of fat they ate, the idea was to reduce the amount of cholesterol and unhealthy fats in the body. But by focusing just on cutting out fat, experts didn’t count on the fact that people would compensate for the missing fat and start loading up on carbohydrates, which the body converts into sugar—and then body fat.

gaobest Jun 29, 2020 9:33 am


Originally Posted by Taikucing (Post 32493481)

does this mean that the full fat in milk is a good fat, the way salmon and avocado are good cholesterols and not bad cholesterols? Plus nuts being good fats?

ILuvParis Jun 29, 2020 9:58 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32493749)
does this mean that the full fat in milk is a good fat, the way salmon and avocado are good cholesterols and not bad cholesterols? Plus nuts being good fats?

And ice cream and whipped cream are best of all? ;)

corky Jun 29, 2020 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32493819)
And ice cream and whipped cream are best of all? ;)

I think you meant to include butter.

JMorgana Jun 29, 2020 1:23 pm

LOL I don't see sour cream or cottage cheese on that list either! :D

ILuvParis Jun 29, 2020 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32494300)
I think you meant to include butter.

Definitely. Oversight on my part.

BamaVol Jun 29, 2020 3:40 pm

I grew up drinking whole milk. I’m not sure 2% had even been invented. I think skim milk was a thing in the 50’s but I never saw any in the fridge. About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed as lactose intolerant. At that point, I stopped consuming all dairy products. I didn’t miss milk which I only used to moisten cereal anyway. Gradually, dairy and dairy-oids began to return to our home. We use whole almond milk on cereal. I wish it were whiter (can I say that?). It’s grey color is a little off putting. When the grandkids are here, there is Lactaid whole milk in the fridge. I taste and see the difference. But when they leave, the next bottle will be almond milk.

Taikucing Jun 29, 2020 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32494685)
I grew up drinking whole milk. I’m not sure 2% had even been invented. I think skim milk was a thing in the 50’s but I never saw any in the fridge. About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed as lactose intolerant. At that point, I stopped consuming all dairy products. I didn’t miss milk which I only used to moisten cereal anyway. Gradually, dairy and dairy-oids began to return to our home. We use whole almond milk on cereal. I wish it were whiter (can I say that?). It’s grey color is a little off putting. When the grandkids are here, there is Lactaid whole milk in the fridge. I taste and see the difference. But when they leave, the next bottle will be almond milk.

I'm also lactose intolerant, not that bad though, I can't drink milk but I can consume ice cream, butter etc. Almond milk is ok but I prefer Lactaid whole milk.

gaobest Jun 29, 2020 6:10 pm

Fairlight brand milk is lactose free. I think A2 is also low on lactose but I’m not fully sure because I don’t use it.

corky Jun 29, 2020 6:16 pm

You don't have to be lactose intolerant to drink lactaid. I used to buy it because I use milk so rarely...just cereal and it has a longer shelf life but i have no issues with lactose.

exerda Jun 29, 2020 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32447850)
I thought drinking milk was only for children who need the calcium. But adults?? To me, that's just weird.

A glass of milk goes with cookies, pastries, pies (though ice cream is better), cake, etc.

I admit that I would generally have milk with those items in the morning... If consumed in the evening, it's whisky to go alongside the sweets.

gaobest Jun 29, 2020 8:10 pm

Milk & ice with either amaretto or Cuarenta y Tres is really good.

ILuvParis Jun 29, 2020 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32495009)
Fairlight brand milk is lactose free. I think A2 is also low on lactose but I’m not fully sure because I don’t use it.

I think you mean Fairlife. I only know because I used to live across the street from their HQ in Chicago.

gaobest Jun 30, 2020 12:05 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32495384)
I think you mean Fairlife. I only know because I used to live across the street from their HQ in Chicago.

yes, I always confuse the name and Safeway stocks it so I know what to fetch :-)

lhrsfo Jun 30, 2020 8:57 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32495102)
A glass of milk goes with cookies, pastries, pies (though ice cream is better), cake, etc.

I still think it's weird. With cookies, some people dunk but I'm not for that - just eat with tea or coffee.
Pastries, again tea or coffee. Alternatively clotted cream.
Pies should be single or double cream.
Cake should be moist enough to eat without anything extra, but accompany with tea or coffee.

I'm not getting milk anywhere in that.

ILuvParis Jun 30, 2020 10:26 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32496392)
I still think it's weird. With cookies, some people dunk but I'm not for that - just eat with tea or coffee.
Pastries, again tea or coffee. Alternatively clotted cream.
Pies should be single or double cream.
Cake should be moist enough to eat without anything extra, but accompany with tea or coffee.

I'm not getting milk anywhere in that.

It's all a matter of opinion, but with regard to pies, ice cream goes with most fruit pies with a double crust or streusel/crumb type topping (e.g., cherry, apple, blueberry etc.) Your single or double cream (whipped cream) goes with cream pies (chocolate, banana, coconut, pumpkin, etc.). The exception would be a cold fruit pie like strawberry, which also gets whipped cream. You now have the ultimate word on this. ;)


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