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flyertalker54234 Feb 24, 2020 12:22 am


Originally Posted by hfly (Post 32056806)
You need to try Japanese Kewpie Mayo. The dash of MSG makes all the difference!

Totally agree but it has to be Japanese product. They are now making some in Europe and it is disgusting.
Main thread, most Americans make toasted cheeses sandwiches with mayo instead of butter on outside. Delicious.
I love mayo but to each his own. I cannot stand Salad Cream, just the smell starts my heaving reflexes. Still someone in UK must like it.

BamaVol Feb 24, 2020 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by rjlon (Post 32105820)
Main thread, most Americans make toasted cheeses sandwiches with mayo instead of butter on outside. Delicious.
I love mayo but to each his own.

Huh. I’ve spent most of my 66 years in the US and have never heard of mayo used on grilled cheese sandwiches instead of butter or margarine. This sounds disgusting but implausible.

TGarza Feb 24, 2020 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32108934)
Huh. I’ve spent most of my 66 years in the US and have never heard of mayo used on grilled cheese sandwiches instead of butter or margarine. This sounds disgusting but implausible.


You have me on years but I have never had a grilled cheese with mayonnaise in all my years living in the US.

Eastbay1K Feb 25, 2020 8:59 am


Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 32109049)
You have me on years but I have never had a grilled cheese with mayonnaise in all my years living in the US.

On the other hand, the ""cheese" in most US grilled cheese sandwiches isn't really cheese ;)

TGarza Feb 25, 2020 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 32111238)
On the other hand, the ""cheese" in most US grilled cheese sandwiches isn't really cheese ;)

That's why I avoid ordering a burger with cheese since it usually is not real cheese.

BuildingMyBento Feb 25, 2020 9:20 pm

Sliced Mayo (from Japan)

Badenoch Feb 26, 2020 5:39 am


Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 32113245)
That's why I avoid ordering a burger with cheese since it usually is not real cheese.

How about mayo instead? Mayo on a burger is better than cheese.

TGarza Feb 26, 2020 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 32114567)
How about mayo instead? Mayo on a burger is better than cheese.

Mayo on a burger is disgusting.

readywhenyouare Feb 26, 2020 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32049338)
Whats your beef with mayo? I don’t use it as a condiment but no mayo would mean no tuna salad, no deviled eggs. I do think it’s used too liberally, especially in the south. A little goes a long way. BTW, I make my own at home: egg, olive oil, salt, dry mustard and lemon juice. The flavor differs from what you buy in a jar. If your issue is texture, I can’t help you.

Agreed. Mayonnaise should be used sparingly and homemade beats anything you will buy at the store. You can also add any herbs or spices of your choosing to give a different flavor.

BamaVol Feb 27, 2020 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 32117277)
Agreed. Mayonnaise should be used sparingly and homemade beats anything you will buy at the store. You can also add any herbs or spices of your choosing to give a different flavor.

Timely post. I made curry mayonnaise tonight for chicken salad.

TGarza Feb 27, 2020 5:13 pm

Mayonnaise as an ingredient makes a very moist cake. Mayonnaise is essentially eggs, oil and vinegar. This cake was common in the south during the Great Depression.

jeebus Feb 27, 2020 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32108934)
Huh. I’ve spent most of my 66 years in the US and have never heard of mayo used on grilled cheese sandwiches instead of butter or margarine. This sounds disgusting but implausible.


Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 32109049)
You have me on years but I have never had a grilled cheese with mayonnaise in all my years living in the US.

Grilled cheese sandwiches are often made with mayo as a browning/crisping agent. You may not make it that way yourself, but if you've ever ordered a grilled cheese in a restaurant, there's a good chance you did eat one with some mayo on it.

Among many recipes (and debates) online, see for example: https://www.today.com/food/martha-st...e-ever-t105748

readywhenyouare Feb 27, 2020 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 32121059)
Grilled cheese sandwiches are often made with mayo as a browning/crisping agent. You may not make it that way yourself, but if you've ever ordered a grilled cheese in a restaurant, there's a good chance you did eat one with some mayo on it.

Among many recipes (and debates) online, see for example: https://www.today.com/food/martha-st...e-ever-t105748

While I'm sure it would make the bread brown and crisp nicely, I can't imagine it adds any flavor. I'll stick with butter.

MSPeconomist Feb 27, 2020 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 32105793)
I always thought Miracle Whip was just mayonnaise with lots of sugar added. That's what I remember it tasting like. Yuck.

I always thought of it as an *attempt* to pasteurize mayonnaise.

TGarza Mar 1, 2020 8:35 am


Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 32121059)
Grilled cheese sandwiches are often made with mayo as a browning/crisping agent. You may not make it that way yourself, but if you've ever ordered a grilled cheese in a restaurant, there's a good chance you did eat one with some mayo on it.

Among many recipes (and debates) online, see for example: https://www.today.com/food/martha-st...e-ever-t105748


LOL, thankfully most restaurants do not follow Martha Stewart cooking tips. Even if mayonnaise is used which I doubt, it would cooked eggs, oil and vinegar which completely changes the taste and texture of mayonnaise which is a raw emulsion of ingredients.

corky Mar 3, 2020 12:10 am


Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 32129160)
LOL, thankfully most restaurants do not follow Martha Stewart cooking tips. Even if mayonnaise is used which I doubt, it would cooked eggs, oil and vinegar which completely changes the taste and texture of mayonnaise which is a raw emulsion of ingredients.

Mayo is a fat and is used in lots of things that you would never guess. It does not taste like cooked eggs when used to brown bread. I actually mix it with dijon mustard and coat salmon with it and no one ever guesses what it is. It is like an emulsified oil that coats, promotes browning and keeps things moist.
It is great for getting a nice crust on a steak.
https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/alt...yo-hack/091918

TGarza Mar 3, 2020 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32135290)
Mayo is a fat and is used in lots of things that you would never guess. It does not taste like cooked eggs when used to brown bread. I actually mix it with dijon mustard and coat salmon with it and no one ever guesses what it is. It is like an emulsified oil that coats, promotes browning and keeps things moist.
It is great for getting a nice crust on a steak.
https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/alt...yo-hack/091918

That's my point. Cooked mayonnaise taste nothing like the egg, oil and vinegar of the emulsified mixture which is slathered on a sandwich or used to hold salads together. Eggs (usually heat treated) are an essential ingredient for mayonnaise.

BamaVol Mar 9, 2020 7:09 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32135290)
Mayo is a fat and is used in lots of things that you would never guess. It does not taste like cooked eggs when used to brown bread. I actually mix it with dijon mustard and coat salmon with it and no one ever guesses what it is. It is like an emulsified oil that coats, promotes browning and keeps things moist.
It is great for getting a nice crust on a steak.
https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/alt...yo-hack/091918

I use it the same way on salmon - but homemade with dill added. I grilled salmon that way this week and got compliments from guests on how moist it was. I like your idea of mixing with Dijon and will try that myself.

chachani Mar 10, 2020 4:05 pm

However in Belgium you can choose lots of other sauces with your 'belgian' fries, but indeed part of the people use mayonaise. But there might be a difference in the way the mayonaise is prepared. Even in Belgium we have different kinds, the best kind is fresh made. I suppose people who dislike mayonaise should try local (Belgium, France ,...) ways of making it: might have a better taste.

flyernok Mar 10, 2020 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento (Post 32067711)
East Asia is the reason I can't eat mayonnaise anymore. Japan and Kewpie are bedfellows, China throws it on grapes, and Korea, always in last place, throws it in kimbap. Bakeries over in those napes of the woods also add it to bread filled with yakisoba, corn kernels, and the most dolorous, pork floss.

i was in Seoul and Yeosu in November. . .ate plenty of kimbap and none of them had mayo. i had to google a variation that involves tuna, but i don't think it's as widespread as you think it is.

darthbimmer Mar 10, 2020 5:42 pm

I dislike mayo. It's a combination look/texture/taste thing. When I travel overseas in countries where it's a popular condiment I lean toward choosing restaurants where there are picture menus or the food is prepared in front of me and I can point to what I want, if I don't speak the language well enough to say, "No mayonnaise." Also, certain ethnic cuisines are extremely unlikely to use mayo. My most pleasurable meal on a trip to Argentina was Jordanian!

Curiously it's also difficult to avoid mayo in the US and UK, where language barrier shouldn't be a factor. Sometimes I ask, "What's on this sandwich?" and mayo isn't listed as an ingredient but is added anyway. Or I order a sandwich "plain, mustard and onions only" and it comes with mayo and maybe one or two other surprise toppings, too. There have also been multiple times I've told a food worker (who speaks English), "No mayo, please," only to watch him/her pick up the paddle 1 second later and absolutely slather my sandwich with the stuff.

Colin Mar 10, 2020 5:53 pm

California roll please, use real crab meat with no mayo. yes, i’ll pay more.

LuvDog Mar 10, 2020 5:57 pm

I’ve eaten and made a lot of kimbap in my life and I’ve never run in to mayo in it.

_kurt Mar 10, 2020 11:10 pm

We had a catered lunch at work this week. I love club sandwiches and hate mayo. I somehow completely forgot that club sandwiches are traditionally served with mayo. Usually I ask the waiter to omit it, but it's like a reflex at this point and not something I think about. Saw delicious looking bacon and tomatoes. Transferred sandwich to my plate. Had to discard most of the bread.

TornCalfGuy Mar 11, 2020 10:14 am

Mayo = Satan's condiment

Gig103 Mar 11, 2020 10:25 am


Originally Posted by TornCalfGuy (Post 32169276)
Mayo = Satan's condiment

My instinct is to order without mayo, but I think it's actually not that bad a condiment if used sparingly. But few cooks use it sparingly.

corky Mar 11, 2020 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32159669)
I use it the same way on salmon - but homemade with dill added. I grilled salmon that way this week and got compliments from guests on how moist it was. I like your idea of mixing with Dijon and will try that myself.

I didn't mention it but yes, I use dill with the combo too. Delicious. I have some spicy or chipotle dijon that I use sometimes.
All this mayo hate.....I can eat it straight from the jar on a spoon! Best Foods mayo only.

BamaVol Mar 12, 2020 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32171891)
I didn't mention it but yes, I use dill with the combo too. Delicious. I have some spicy or chipotle dijon that I use sometimes.
All this mayo hate.....I can eat it straight from the jar on a spoon! Best Foods mayo only.

I had a roommate in college that would eat Cremora (a powdered coffee creamer. I don’t know if it’s still sold) from the jar with a spoon. You are not in good company. 😄

corky Mar 12, 2020 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32175572)
I had a roommate in college that would eat Cremora (a powdered coffee creamer. I don’t know if it’s still sold) from the jar with a spoon. You are not in good company. 😄

HAHA---that sounds like eating baby powder and something that one would choke on. I am not that stupid.
Surely you don't see a problem with squirting whipped cream from the can into your mouth though, do you?

Eastbay1K Mar 12, 2020 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32175572)
I had a roommate in college that would eat Cremora (a powdered coffee creamer. I don’t know if it’s still sold) from the jar with a spoon. You are not in good company. 😄

Not only is this a thread hijack, it, as well as other posts have shifted the focus from overseas (from a clearly US-Centric poster) to clearly domestic culinary abominations!

BamaVol Mar 13, 2020 8:03 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32176701)
HAHA---that sounds like eating baby powder and something that one would choke on. I am not that stupid.
Surely you don't see a problem with squirting whipped cream from the can into your mouth though, do you?

Sorry for the hijack but I cannot leave this post unanswered.

I suppose it’s alright to ingest a little whipped cream if it’s collateral to getting a lungful of nitrous. I’m grown up now but as teenagers we’d empty the nitrous and put the can back on the shelf.

corky Mar 13, 2020 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32178712)
Sorry for the hijack but I cannot leave this post unanswered.

I suppose it’s alright to ingest a little whipped cream if it’s collateral to getting a lungful of nitrous. I’m grown up now but as teenagers we’d empty the nitrous and put the can back on the shelf.

Yes, I know someone who admits to that too. He used to work in a grocery store as a teen so he must have been high as a kite.
Haha...collateral. Nope, just the cream although I am signed up for nitrous from my dentist for my upcoming root canal. I would have preferred full anesthesia but they won't do it.

BamaVol Mar 14, 2020 9:24 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32182015)
Yes, I know someone who admits to that too. He used to work in a grocery store as a teen so he must have been high as a kite.
Haha...collateral. Nope, just the cream although I am signed up for nitrous from my dentist for my upcoming root canal. I would have preferred full anesthesia but they won't do it.

It being Friday and Lent, I grilled salmon again last night for the 3 of us. This time I added the Dijon to the mayo and dill. It went over well. My father in law is not a seafood lover but I’m converting him slowly. This helps.

and now back to your regularly scheduled overseas overuse of mayonnaise thread.

onobond Mar 15, 2020 8:29 am


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 32176880)
Not only is this a thread hijack, it, as well as other posts have shifted the focus from overseas (from a clearly US-Centric poster) to clearly domestic culinary abominations!

For a majority of the world, the US is an overseas destination :p

Eastbay1K Mar 15, 2020 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by onobond (Post 32188323)
For a majority of the world, the US is an overseas destination :p

And now, our overseas destination is unavailable for the majority of the world to hijack our mayonnaise!

2Ruse Mar 20, 2020 1:00 pm

Devil's Condiment Maybe Just a Little Strong But
 
when i was a kid, we didn't have much money and 1 of my favorite snacks was mayo on white bread (this was in the 50's) - i think that's why i cannot stand mayo now
i think the US is probably a major offender, because i don't remember having an issue with foods in any other part of the world (haven't been to antarctica though)
when i moved to california i discovered to my horror that the default on hamburgers is mayo on the bun - yuk! i do still forget (or the kitchen put it on anyway) and i'm OK with scraping as much off the bun as i can, but the server will get a dark look

cblaisd Mar 20, 2020 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by 2Ruse (Post 32211662)
...when i moved to california i discovered to my horror that the default on hamburgers is mayo on the bun - yuk!

One of the reasons I initially raised the question:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/dini...-you-live.html

TGarza Mar 20, 2020 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 32211733)
One of the reasons I initially raised the question:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/dini...-you-live.html

Order dry burger for no condiments. Order plain burger for no cheese, lettuce, tomato or pickles. My son orders plain and dry which is meat and bun.

Eastbay1K Mar 20, 2020 6:27 pm

And back specifically to the OP, it has never been easier to avoid mayo overseas!

(You can't accidentally be served in a place that you can't get to.)

miamiflyer8 Mar 20, 2020 7:46 pm

Anyone else saw the thread title and thought this thread was about how to avoid mayo in certain countries with poor hygiene standards, but instead gets 6 pages of people discussing their likings of the condiment itself?


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