Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 22181917)

The best ice cream is that which you make yourself. Nothing from the factories comes close. I've found most of them far too sweet.

Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 22181689)

Not sure what Alinlondon is referring to as "half the price" without a supermarket discount offer (BOGOF, 3 for 2, 2nd half price, etc.) is pushing it when comparing like for like ice creams with premium ingredients amongst all the supermarkets.

Here's a selection from 3 of the bigger players in the British market:

Waitrose seriously creamy Madagascan Vanilla:
Whole milk, whipping cream (34%), demerara sugar, skimmed milk powder, pasteurised free range egg, sugar, Madagascan vanilla extract (0.5%), Madagascan vanilla powder.
£4 for 500ml


Sainsbury's Vanilla Ice Cream, Taste the Difference
Whole Jersey Milk*(50%), Double Cream* (25%), Unrefined Cane Sugar, Skimmed Milk Powder*, Free Range Egg Yolk, Madagascan Vanilla Extract, Vanilla Powder * From Cow's Milk
£4 for 500ml


Tesco Finest Madagascan Vanilla Ice Cream
Whole Milk, Double Cream (Milk) (34%), Demerara Sugar, Dried Skimmed Milk, Pasteurised Free Range Egg, Sugar, Madagascan Vanilla (0.4%) (Vanilla Extract, Crushed Vanilla Pods)
£3 for 500ml


Haagen-Dazs Dairy Vanilla
Fresh Cream, Condensed Skimmed Milk, Sugar, Egg Yolk, Natural Vanilla Flavouring
£4.50 for 500ml
Hmmmm... Condensed milk (and a hefty proportion at that), no wonder it is so sickly sweet!

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Edit to add
Sorry to miss your latest response, Alinlondon
Tesco brand premium ice cream is consistent with your first post
Nearly half the price of Haagen Dasz and I would agree that the Bourbon Vanilla example has better ingredients (although this can be argued, particularly by those with sweet teeth!)

Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 22182171)

Condensed skimmed milk has no sweeteners added. Perhaps you are thinking of sweetened condensed milk? Whatever sweetness HD has comes from the sugar.

Originally Posted by slawecki (Post 22181729)

the death of haagen dazs:

Häagen-Dazs was bought by Pillsbury in 1983. General Mills bought Pillsbury in 2001.[13][14] However, in the United States and Canada, Häagen-Dazs products are produced by Nestlé subsidiary Dreyer's, which acquired the rights as part of the General Mills-Pillsbury deal.[15][16] The brand name is still owned by General Mills but is licensed to Nestlé in the US and Canada.

Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 22181917)

The best ice cream is that which you make yourself. Nothing from the factories comes close. I've found most of them far too sweet.

Originally Posted by PokerHammy (Post 22181599)

What ingredients are in those supermarket ice cream?

Originally Posted by rsqrott (Post 22183058)

Dairy from the UK.

The main difference, IMO, is the superior lusciousness of the UK dairy products :). Even simple milk tastes better in the UK and don't get me started on chocolate. I don't know what it is about the quality of the dairy products in the UK but the US is no comparison. I'm not talking about small source creameries but the mass market stuff. And yes, OP, I agree with you. I'd take UK store brand double cream ice cream over Hagen Dazs any day.

But B&J Chocolate Therapy is something else entirely :D.

Still in the US we have to make do with what we've got. Hands down my favorite ice cream can be had at Rich's Farm in CT where you can watch the cows grazing on the hill while you enjoy your freshly made ice cream.

Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 22182610)

I'd be interested to know what the sugar content of unsweetened condensed milk is.

One can expect 100g of standard milk to have 5g of sugar (5%). My guess is that 100g of condensed milk would have something close to 15g of sugar. If unsweetened condensed milk makes up 200g, that's potentially an extra 20g of sugar (plus the 10g one expects milk to have naturally) that gets sneaked in undeclared into a Haagen Dasz 500g tub.

Concentrated apple juice is one of the ways companies add sugar "secretly" to children's foods and other products, milk is naturally sweet (or should be) and concentrating it makes it sweeter.

Sweetened condensed milk is more along the lines of how most of Ben & Jerry's flavours taste to me :eek:

Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 22183093)

Just as a note, Haggen Dazs Vanilla in the US does not contain condensed skim milk. http://www.haagendazs.com/Products/Product/2473.

Originally Posted by tentseller (Post 22182762)

Definitely. I have a source of farm fresh organic milk/cream and eggs near Elmira ON (is that part of Wellington County?) which is used for my home churned ice-cream (custard based). You control the sugar content.

Originally Posted by DCA1983 (Post 22199082)

Let me just tell you one quick, incontrovertible truth: B&J's Phish Food is the best damn ice cream ever made. Bar none.

Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 22182610)

I'd be interested to know what the sugar content of unsweetened condensed milk is.

One can expect 100g of standard milk to have 5g of sugar (5%). My guess is that 100g of condensed milk would have something close to 15g of sugar. If unsweetened condensed milk makes up 200g, that's potentially an extra 20g of sugar (plus the 10g one expects milk to have naturally) that gets sneaked in undeclared into a Haagen Dasz 500g tub.

Concentrated apple juice is one of the ways companies add sugar "secretly" to children's foods and other products, milk is naturally sweet (or should be) and concentrating it makes it sweeter.

Sweetened condensed milk is more along the lines of how most of Ben & Jerry's flavours taste to me :eek:

Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 22181917)

The best ice cream is that which you make yourself. Nothing from the factories comes close. I've found most of them far too sweet.

Originally Posted by slawecki (Post 22181994)

i agree. we bought a machine. i threw it out after i gained 10 pounds. same thing with the home made pasta machine.