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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 17486975)
Really? There is fish in my orange juice? Interesting.
In general, everyone would be better off knowing the ingredients in their food and their sources. |
Originally Posted by ossipago
(Post 17487036)
Yes, many foods fortified with omega-3 fatty acids do so via fish oil. There are plenty of vegetarian sources of omega-3s, however, such as flaxseed, nuts, and many microalgaes, but they require a little work to find.
In general, everyone would be better off knowing the ingredients in their food and their sources. |
no there isn't. Everybody drinks water. It would help if you had some notion of the mathematical concepts you are trying to throw at me
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You must be referring to the other side of Market St
Originally Posted by DJGMaster1
(Post 17480568)
Probably the Tossed Salad is a more appropriate name anyways.
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The US is behind in terms of life expectancy because we overeat, not because we eat a lot of meat.
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Originally Posted by jrolland1975
(Post 17488022)
no there isn't. Everybody drinks water. It would help if you had some notion of the mathematical concepts you are trying to throw at me
Originally Posted by jrolland1975
(Post 17488043)
The US is behind in terms of life expectancy because we overeat, not because we eat a lot of meat.
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I don't apologize for liking meat either. I enjoy being at the top of the food chain! :p
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Originally Posted by bobsyouruncle
(Post 17478205)
That is a very funny sketch. Mitchell and Webb are brilliant. For anyone who wants to see the sketch it's available on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ "What was that I saw running around?" "That's the cat!"
Originally Posted by ossipago
(Post 17487036)
Yes, many foods fortified with omega-3 fatty acids do so via fish oil. There are plenty of vegetarian sources of omega-3s, however, such as flaxseed, nuts, and many microalgaes, but they require a little work to find.
In general, everyone would be better off knowing the ingredients in their food and their sources. |
Originally Posted by PebbleBeach
(Post 17488034)
You must be referring to the other side of Market St
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I am repeating for the third time, with consistency slightly tinted with lassitude, that I do not have any quantitative studies to support the claim meat is not unhealthy. I was asking for such studies. All I am saying is that countries that do have high meat consumptions per capita, COMPARATIVELY are also countries that have high life expectancy, COMPARATIVELY. I am also stating the factual observation that life expectancy increased in the past 200 years at the same time as people stopped eating dough and potatoes and started to enjoy hamburgers.
These are facts that do not coincide with the stereotype that vegans live longer. That stereotype actually originated from one study called The Adventist Health Study, a huge study of Seventh Day Adventists who ate little or no meat and showed longevity increases of 7.28 years in men and 4.42 years in women. These data are confounded by the fact that Seventh Day Adventists follow healthy lifestyles free of tobacco and alcohol. Most other studies either show no difference or are inconclusive. A fascinating paper recently published in the journal Mechanisms of Aging and Development presents an entirely new theory to explain why vegetarians do not live longer. It turns out that those who avoid eating beef suffer a deficiency of a nutrient (carnosine) that is critical to preventing lethal glycation reactions in the body. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jan2006_awsi_01.htm |
Originally Posted by jrolland1975
(Post 17488022)
no there isn't. Everybody drinks water. It would help if you had some notion of the mathematical concepts you are trying to throw at me
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Originally Posted by jrolland1975
I am repeating for the third time, with consistency slightly tinted with lassitude, that I do not have any quantitative studies to support the claim meat is not unhealthy. I was asking for such studies. All I am saying is that countries that do have high meat consumptions per capita, COMPARATIVELY are also countries that have high life expectancy, COMPARATIVELY. I am also stating the factual observation that life expectancy increased in the past 200 years at the same time as people stopped eating dough and potatoes and started to enjoy hamburgers.
These are facts that do not coincide with the stereotype that vegans live longer. That stereotype actually originated from one study called The Adventist Health Study, a huge study of Seventh Day Adventists who ate little or no meat and showed longevity increases of 7.28 years in men and 4.42 years in women. These data are confounded by the fact that Seventh Day Adventists follow healthy lifestyles free of tobacco and alcohol. Most other studies either show no difference or are inconclusive. A fascinating paper recently published in the journal Mechanisms of Aging and Development presents an entirely new theory to explain why vegetarians do not live longer. It turns out that those who avoid eating beef suffer a deficiency of a nutrient (carnosine) that is critical to preventing lethal glycation reactions in the body. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jan2006_awsi_01.htm Your comments on the Adventist studies are likewise wrong. The issue of smoking is only a confounder if only one group smokes. I dont think that was the case in those studies. |
I like meat and would be mighty irritated with someone who preached at me about eating meat.
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If the vegetarians give me any hassle, I just like to point out that they've chosen to place themselves far down on the food-chain, and if we run out of food, things that eat only vegetables are going to be next up for us meat eaters.
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 17486975)
Really? There is fish in my orange juice? Interesting.
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