Anyone with a SuperAutomatic Espresso Machine?
Jul 1, 2018, 2:21 pm
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So I’m finally retiring my Rancilio Silvia and Rocky after nearly 10 years of service. Figured it was time for an upgrade. Just ordered a Eureka Atom grinder and Rocket Mozzafiato Evoluzione R. Very much looking forward to my new toys coming in the next week or so. Will also setup plumbing to the machine - I think we can tap into the refrigerator water line, so shouldn’t be too bad.
Jul 23, 2018, 3:30 pm
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I am using a Saeco Intelia Deluxe. I only ever make espressos or long espressos with it, I have not made any cappuccinos or lattes in the 9 months I've had the machine.
So far it's holding up well... hopefully it will be more reliable than the Miele automatic that I had previously. That machine looked great, it was built right into the cabinetry. But it failed after a few years and I could simply not find anyone who could service it. It's annoying to have an appliance built into your kitchen cabinets that doesn't work. A replacement Miele would have been around $4,000, while I paid about $1,300 for the Saeco.
So far it's holding up well... hopefully it will be more reliable than the Miele automatic that I had previously. That machine looked great, it was built right into the cabinetry. But it failed after a few years and I could simply not find anyone who could service it. It's annoying to have an appliance built into your kitchen cabinets that doesn't work. A replacement Miele would have been around $4,000, while I paid about $1,300 for the Saeco.
Jul 23, 2018, 8:37 pm
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I am a die-hard Fan of Jura Machines. Im now on my 3rd machine, the previous two served me for 10 and 12 years, respectively. They are not a small investment, but I continue to be pleased with their long term performance and will continue to give Jura my business when the time comes to replace my current Impressa Z9.
Aug 2, 2018, 6:47 am
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I am a die-hard Fan of Jura Machines. Im now on my 3rd machine, the previous two served me for 10 and 12 years, respectively. They are not a small investment, but I continue to be pleased with their long term performance and will continue to give Jura my business when the time comes to replace my current Impressa Z9.
https://www.costco.com/JURA-J6-Autom...100416628.html
This model replaces the J9 and the J90.
Oct 20, 2019, 5:29 am
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My Jura is on its last legs (won’t recognize cleaning tablets) so it’s probably time for a new one. Just a coffee drinker so don’t need the fancy features? Any recommendations? Want to keep it under $1000... doesn’t necessarily have to be a JURA either...
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Oct 22, 2019, 11:28 am
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I agree with the 12 year life-span, more or less. At 4 cups a day (2 each) that comes out to be $0.11 per cup to amortize the Jura. (Not including the actual coffee, filters and cleaning tablets). I think that's a good bargain in the end.
Oct 22, 2019, 9:34 pm
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I think I got pretty darn good use out of it...
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Oct 23, 2019, 1:09 pm
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Oct 25, 2019, 1:59 pm
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Oct 27, 2019, 6:39 pm
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yeah; depending on the model it’s hidden somewhere in the settings menu. It can be... sobering....
30% off? Where? Please?
30% off? Where? Please?
Oct 28, 2019, 5:36 pm
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Good deals can be found on refurb machines at wholelattelove and seattlecoffeegear. I've had a Saeco refurb going on 3 years now with no problems whatsoever. I think I've already got my money's worth and when the time comes to replace it, I'll view it as an opportunity for a significant upgrade.
Oct 28, 2019, 7:38 pm
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Contacted JURA and they offer repair for $275, or trade in for discount.. so now we are looking at either the A9 or the E6 (they don't offer the E8 on trade-in unfortunately). New,with two year warranty.. plus my Citi prestige should give me another two years right? So, I would love some help
Here are the pros of the A9 versus E6 as I see it:
Can make coffee/milk drinks with one touch versus the E6 (no knob turning); however, I don't put milk into my coffee (though my wife typically just puts warm milk in hers)
Makes more drinks (including ristretto)
Same form factor as the ENA 5
powder chute for ground coffee
Cons of the A9
Small range of coffee strength size; versus the E6 (max 10 g versus 16g)
small water and bean reservoir as well as grounds hopper (though not much difference versus my ENA 5)
Not adjustable water temperature
Am I missing anything? Both seem to have PEP, the same grinder.. The coffee dose size is the a hold up; is it that much of a difference? Also, long term reliability is on my mind too- can the A9 get as many miles as the E6 (I've seem some vague references to the A9; micro ENA machines having the same brew group; which isn't as up to snuff)
Here are the pros of the A9 versus E6 as I see it:
Can make coffee/milk drinks with one touch versus the E6 (no knob turning); however, I don't put milk into my coffee (though my wife typically just puts warm milk in hers)
Makes more drinks (including ristretto)
Same form factor as the ENA 5
powder chute for ground coffee
Cons of the A9
Small range of coffee strength size; versus the E6 (max 10 g versus 16g)
small water and bean reservoir as well as grounds hopper (though not much difference versus my ENA 5)
Not adjustable water temperature
Am I missing anything? Both seem to have PEP, the same grinder.. The coffee dose size is the a hold up; is it that much of a difference? Also, long term reliability is on my mind too- can the A9 get as many miles as the E6 (I've seem some vague references to the A9; micro ENA machines having the same brew group; which isn't as up to snuff)
May 20, 2020, 11:20 am
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Other than for the failed built-in Miele above, has anyone had experience with the Miele countertop superautomatics? Current sale where I am where the price gets knocked down over 50% providing you buy 5 Kg of rather-expensive coffee.