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cblaisd Apr 28, 2020 8:19 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 32328430)
Like many (apparently) I have once again taken up bread baking.

I have merged a thread that began with this post (and was originally in OMNI) with the o.p.'s similar thread (and with a re-title for clarity)

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LondonElite Apr 28, 2020 8:22 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32330249)
Those look delicious!

I will admit that the hardest thing to get used to in getting back into making bread is the lack of kneading. I had always had it drilled into my head that you had to knead to develop gluten, and that of course the stand mixer would save all that effort.

Then all the recipes I've used as well as those a professional baker friend of mine has recommended to me involve no traditional kneading, either by hand or by dough hook. Just an autolyse period for the ingredients, some turning & stretching of the dough during the bulk rise (far less than kneading), and loaf shaping.

With high moisture ratio doughs (75% or more water by weight), I'm happy not to try to knead. That would be a gloopy mess in the mixer and worse by hand. It's enough of a mess turning and stretching by hand as it is. But the results have been great on every batch I've tried this year.

This was one of my recent results:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f63945819d.jpg

Impressive!

chrisl137 Apr 28, 2020 8:56 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32330102)
ETA: Read through Lahey's recipe, and I still think the standard proof cycle might be a bit warm for overnight. A 12-18 hour bulk fermentation like he suggests would be at room temperature of 68-72 IMHO, and at warmer temps would risk the yeast basically running out of food too quickly, and the final dough falling a bit. You might be okay; always worth trying.

I think 68 is on the cold side for Lahey's recipe unless you're going *really* long. I make it year round and have to use the bedroom that stays over 70 for overnight rises in the winter. In the summer I've normally put it over some warm piece of electronics, and kept it over 75 without problems unless I let the first rise go over 18 hours. With the heat lamp and controller I just got, I had it in the oven for 12 hours at 80F and could have easily gone over 15 without problems. Since there's no added sugar the yeast acts a lot slower.

USA_flyer Apr 29, 2020 6:46 am

Today I made a 750g loaf of basic white bread in my breadmaker. It was the best loaf I ever made and was light and fluffy - the only thing I would have liked to be different is a slightly darker crust.

I am feeling quite pleased with myself.

corky May 1, 2020 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32330249)
Those look delicious!

I will admit that the hardest thing to get used to in getting back into making bread is the lack of kneading. I had always had it drilled into my head that you had to knead to develop gluten, and that of course the stand mixer would save all that effort.

Then all the recipes I've used as well as those a professional baker friend of mine has recommended to me involve no traditional kneading, either by hand or by dough hook. Just an autolyse period for the ingredients, some turning & stretching of the dough during the bulk rise (far less than kneading), and loaf shaping.

With high moisture ratio doughs (75% or more water by weight), I'm happy not to try to knead. That would be a gloopy mess in the mixer and worse by hand. It's enough of a mess turning and stretching by hand as it is. But the results have been great on every batch I've tried this year.

This was one of my recent results:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f63945819d.jpg

That's a beauty!! Well done! I want some right now with lots of unsalted plugra butter.

For those of you having trouble finding yeast here are some interesting flatbreads made with yogurt. I have not tried them but they look yummy.
https://smittenkitchen.com/2020/04/l...rt-flatbreads/

gaobest May 2, 2020 5:47 pm

https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/bread-rolls

i‘ve never made a bread product or touched “raw” bread dough until today and these are delicious.
so if I can do this, then everybody else can do it.

Cassie55 May 3, 2020 12:59 am

I made crumpets for the first time. They're not perfect but not bad for a first attempt. The flavour was amazing - so much better than shop bought. They were time consuming though.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...779c7f5785.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7bb6fa8cc6.jpg

gaobest May 3, 2020 2:28 am


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 32344704)
I made crumpets for the first time. They're not perfect but not bad for a first attempt. The flavour was amazing - so much better than shop bought. They were time consuming though.

gorgeous!

recipe please :-)

Cassie55 May 3, 2020 9:45 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32344796)
gorgeous!

recipe please :-)

https://www.daringgourmet.com/tradit...ontainer-43260

Based on a friend's recommendation I didn't flip them as you lose holes. I removed the rings and grilled the top.

BamaVol May 3, 2020 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 32345449)
https://www.daringgourmet.com/tradit...ontainer-43260

Based on a friend's recommendation I didn't flip them as you lose holes. I removed the rings and grilled the top.

My rings arrive tonight and I am ready to get started tomorrow. I love store bought crumpets and can’t imagine how much better these will be. I’ve been hesitating over which recipe to use but yours look so good, I will just follow in your footsteps.

Cassie55 May 3, 2020 10:59 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32345459)
My rings arrive tonight and I am ready to get started tomorrow. I love store bought crumpets and can’t imagine how much better these will be. I’ve been hesitating over which recipe to use but yours look so good, I will just follow in your footsteps.

Let me know how they turn out. Another tip is to cook for a longer time on a lower heat. Just watch the bottoms.

gfunkdave May 4, 2020 7:09 am

I wish the grocery stores here had any flour in stock!

Cassie55 May 4, 2020 9:19 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 32347378)
I wish the grocery stores here had any flour in stock!

I'm struggling. I always have spare bags of bread flour both malted seeded flour and white but I'm running out. It doesn't seem available anywhere.

BamaVol May 4, 2020 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 32347640)
I'm struggling. I always have spare bags of bread flour both malted seeded flour and white but I'm running out. It doesn't seem available anywhere.

I can usually find all sorts off oddball flours: spelt, cake, gluten free, almond etc. if I go to the store early enough, there is usually some all purpose. It not good to be picky about brands though.


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 32345564)
Let me know how they turn out. Another tip is to cook for a longer time on a lower heat. Just watch the bottoms.

Any hints on getting rid of all the annoying pop ups on that website? I just had to print it and be done.

Cassie55 May 4, 2020 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32348373)
Any hints on getting rid of all the annoying pop ups on that website? I just had to print it and be done.

Unfortunately no. A friend passed the link onto me after she made the crumpets. I printed the recipe anyway as I prefer to follow it on paper.


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