Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32578124)

that is ok - organic or not is a polarizing issue :-)

Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32576858)

Yet another big thank you to LapLap. I’m making the roll-ppang (using The Force - hope it’s not wrong) and I’m starting to run low on flour. Maybe 3 pounds? I’m down to two gallon zip locks (not fully filled) and maybe two half scoops of the master 50-lb bag. Omg. So one bag nearly done in 4-1/2 months. Wow.

so if my cornershop still stocks the 50-lb “hotel” flour bag, should I get it again for $14 (as I did in late March 2020) or should I try to get a Costco organic flour 25-lb bag for what I think is $10 if I recall the Costco thread posts? Is non-organic flour that awful? I’m sure that every bakery & bread brand (including tartine) is using industrial bulk non-organic flour. Since I’ve reduced past bakery / cafe purchases tremendously, I feel that this “gmo” non-organic flour is simply replacing what I was previously buying, but now without added preservative chemicals that bakeries / bread brands need for their products. Maybe I really will start to make our own pizza dough and bagels. I know that once winter comes, we will need and want to eat more bread comfort products. So i’d rather buy 50-lb now instead of having to buy a 25-lb bag when others forage for Winter.

we all recall what Winter meant on Game of Thrones.

Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32579584)

I would go with the Kind Arthur at Costco (not sure if that's the flour you mean, but it is the higher-end one at our Costco). You will notice the quality difference in baking, particularly for breads.

I also wouldn't be so sure that higher-end bakeries skimp on the flour, personally.

Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32579656)

my CBC doesn’t offer King A, so I can’t see the cost. Any chance you could tell me the price?

costco stocks or lists Ardent hotel industry flour, which is what I have. $7.49/25-lb bag, a slightly better deal than my $14/50-lb bag assuming my cornershop still has it. I want to keep avoiding Costco but maybe I’ll bite and go there in 3 weeks to get this and my Rao’s. Sigh.

Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32579668)

I think the 25 pound bag of KA is $11 at Costco. The Ardent stuff is the same price you're seeing (about $7.50). The Ardent is okay and is something I've used many times, but the KA is just that much better honestly.

Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32579930)

is King A at CBC and/or Costco stores? I only saw it on CBC site.
I’ve seen it for sure at Safeway in smaller sizes, probably 5-lb maximum.

Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32582217)

Our Costco carries it, as does their Instacart shop for same-day groceries. I don't see it available for general online Costco orders, so it must vary by location.

Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32582287)

thank you! I’m certainly considering King A. I’ve even been to their store when we visited VT / NH region in 2010.

Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32639148)

I'm planning to make a split batch of enriched bread tomorrow: one sandwich loaf, and one batch of rolls. This will be the first time I ditch my great grandmother's roll recipe to try out this one.

Hers is an enriched bread, too, but based on a rapid rise that is good right away, and good toasted for breakfast the next day, but otherwise doesn't keep. I've been pleased with the sandwich bread this recipe makes, so going to be interested to try rolls made from is.

Originally Posted by corky (Post 32639307)

I am not a baker...what makes it an enriched bread?

Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 32639359)

Includes something besides flour, water, salt, and yeast. Usually egg, some kind of fat (oil or butter) and sugar.

For sandwiches and breakfast I like regular breads with a long rise time - I don't like to feed the yeast extra sugar. Enriched doughs are good for dessert-y things, and fluffy dinner rolls. I made a couple nice apple/honey challahs a couple weeks ago, and have made some nice poppy seed danishes (mohnschnecken, for connoisseurs of such things), too.