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Best German Restaurants in USA?
When traveling I seek authentic German restaurants to get my fix of red cabbage and spaetzle. Can you point me to your favorites? And let me know if they are good enough to warrant a special trip.
Some that provided good experiences in the past year: Gasthaus, Louisville, KY Imbiss Grille, Wichita, KS Gasthaus Bavarian Hunter, Stillwater, MN I know the Berghoff in Chicago has reopened and need to get back there soon. |
I'd have added Cafe Berlin in Huntsville, AL until the menu was updated and became less authentic. Still good, but not as good. Excellent pan fried potatos, red cabbage and schnitzel, wonderful desserts.
I can recommend Old German Schnitzel Haus in Hickory, NC. Especially enjoy the sausages and spaetzle. |
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This question was already the topic of a 93-post thread. You may find many suggestions for places there.
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Thanks for the thread referral! I scanned through the thread and compiled this list, organized by state. Since that thread was active 2003-2008 some of these might no longer exist. New additions from this current thread appear here as well.
Huntsville, AL - Cafe Berlin Alameda, CA - Speisekammer Anaheim, CA - Jagerhaus Folsom, CA - Old Europe Lake Almanor, CA - Black Forest Lodge Los Angeles, CA - Alpine Village Los Angeles, CA - Chalet Edelweiss San Diego, CA - Kaiserhof San Francisco, CA - Suppenkuche San Francisco, CA - Matterhorn Swiss San Francisco, CA - Schroeder's San Francisco, CA - Walzwerk San Jose, CA - Gunther's San Jose, CA - Teske's Germania Willow Glen, CA - Meridian Aurora, CO - Helga's Colorado Springs, CO - The Edelweiss Denver, CO - Cafe Berlin New Britain, CT - East Side Restaurant Washington, DC - Cafe Mozart Washington, DC - Leopold's Kafe & Konditorei Washington, DC - Old Europe Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Old Heidelberg Ft. Lauderdale, FL - The Ambry Miami, FL - Hofbrau Beerhall Chicago, IL - Berghoff Chicago, IL - Chicago Brauhaus (Lincoln Square) Chicago, IL - Julius Meinl Des Plaines, IL - Kuhn's Delicatessen Norridge, IL - Edelweiss Jasper, IN - Little Munich Wichita, KS - Imbiss Grille Louisville, KY - Gasthaus Boston, MA - Jacob Wirth Chicopee, MA - Munich Haus Springfield, MA - Student Prince Cafe & Fort Dining Room Dearborn, MI - Richters Chalet Detroit, MI - The Dakota Inn Minneapolis, MN - Black Forest Inn New Prague, MN - Schumacher's New Ulm, MN - Kaiserhoff Stillwater, MN - Gasthaus Bavarian Hunter Hickory, NC - Old German Schnitzel Haus Lake Lure, NC - Gaestehaus Salzburg Pineville, NC - The Waldhorn Hoboken, NJ - Helmers Jersey City, NJ - Zeppelin Hall Las Vegas, NV - Hofbrauhaus Brooklyn, NY - Schnitzelhaus Glendale, NY - Zum Stammtische New York, NY - Heidelburg New York, NY - Hallo Berlin New York, NY - Zum Schneider Queens/Forest Hills, NY - Chalet Alpina Cincinnati, OH - Mecklenburg Gardens Columbus, OH - Schmidt's Sausage Haus Portland, OR - Gruner Portland, OR - Rheinlander Pittsburgh, PA - Max's Allegheny Tavern Pittsburgh, PA - Penn Brewery Hilton Head, SC - Alfred's Myrtle Beach, SC - Cafe Old Vienna Farragut, TN - Restaurant Linderhof Manchester, TN - Gasthaus Dallas, TX - Kuby's Sausage House Plano, TX - Bavarian Grill Madison, VA - The Bavarian Chef Staunton, VA - Edelweiss Seattle, WA - Feierabend Madison, WI - Essenhaus Milwaukee, WI - Karl Ratzsch's |
San Francisco, CA - Suppenkuche - solid range of German food and beer.
Seattle, WA - Feierabend - more a bar that serves food. Prost! and Die Bierstube are 2 other Seattle area german pubs in the same group; neither have much for food. |
Originally Posted by traveltravel
(Post 15883693)
New York, NY - Heidelburg
Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole
(Post 15885547)
San Francisco, CA - Suppenkuche - solid range of German food and beer.
Also check out Walzwerk in San Francisco, a cool East German restaurant. |
Originally Posted by gfunkdave
(Post 15885695)
I happen to be watching No Reservations right now, and Anthony Bourdain just went to Heidelburg. He loved it. They serve obscenely large beers in glass boots ("I love my beer in footwear form," he said.). And they server obscenely large portions of apparently-authentic German food. It all looked good...and hearty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkiseBaJLPY Love the step back in time. Portions are indeed obscenely large! |
Not german, but Germanic, ie Austrian is Wallse in New York:
http://kg-ny.com/wallse This is a seriously excellent restaurant. None of the oompah bands, beer steins, sausage and kraut. But Austrian food and wine that matches anything you can find in Vienna. |
Hallo Berlin is included as one of the best German restaurants in the US? Seems that restaurant was included because it is one of the very few places in Manhattan that serves German food. Hallo Berlin is merely ok but it's hardly the best.
I'm amazed that Hallo Berlin was listed by Zum Stammtische is completely ignored. Is that because Zum Stammtische isn't in a favored NYC locale? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 15892699)
I'm amazed that Hallo Berlin was listed by Zum Stammtische is completely ignored. Is that because Zum Stammtische isn't in a favored NYC locale? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by traveltravel
(Post 15897569)
Nope, it wasn't included because nobody had mentioned it yet. Now that you've recommended it, I've added it to the list above.
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Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 15898404)
Maybe somebody could compile a list of good German restaurants in Germany...I've been here 12 years and haven't found a one I would want to go back to. To be fair, the cuisine just doesn't grab me, but the beer is excellent.
To add to the list, Mader's is the other famous old Milwaukee German restaurant, at least when we ate there some years ago. And if I mention Milwaukee and food I have to include the sausage-maker Usinger's. We'd ordered mail order over the years and it was fun making a pilgrimage to the actual shop. |
While more Austrian than German, Cafe Katja in NYC is a great little find with superb food and good drinks. It's a bit of a neighborhood hangout (non-pretensious), but *it is* on the LES, so you get all kinds of people.
http://www.cafe-katja.com/ It's on my old street, Orchard Street, which has changed dramatically over the last five years. |
Originally Posted by traveltravel
(Post 15883693)
Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Old Heidelberg
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Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 15898404)
Maybe somebody could compile a list of good German restaurants in Germany...I've been here 12 years and haven't found a one I would want to go back to.
Originally Posted by traveltravel
Nope, it wasn't included because nobody had mentioned it yet. Now that you've recommended it, I've added it to the list above.
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Originally Posted by N830MH
(Post 15914857)
I remember where we went to German restaurant a long time ago and we don't have one here in Phoenix, AZ. Perhaps, if you guys can find a German restaurant someplace in northeast Valley.
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Have any of you been to Zeppelin Hall Restaurant and Biergarten? It's in Jersey City. I've only been there to party, so I wasn't examining the food too closely, but it was a great spot and people seemed to be having a nice time. I would highly recommend it.
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It would be a tragedy
to visit San Francisco and eat at Schroeder's. The food is disgusting, ambiance non-existent and service lousy. Within a two block radius you have Perbacco, Barbacco, Michael Mina, and Tadich Grill. All excellent restaurants.
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Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 15919472)
Are you serious??? :D
I'd like to ask the people who seek out German restaurants stateside what specifically is the culinary attraction - curry wurst? french fries with mayonnaise? wiener schnitzel?, or is it just a festive thing to do? Here in the Pfalz you don't need to look at a menu in a German restaurant because most places are identical, often with food cooked by the owner's wife who doubles as waitress- Three or four varieties of schnitzel - check Cordon bleu - check Rumpsteak - check etc, etc I know that Bavarian food is different, but I don't get down there much. Maybe that is what people call to mind when they think 'German' |
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 15922279)
I know that Bavarian food is different, but I don't get down there much. Maybe that is what people call to mind when they think 'German'
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Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 15892699)
Hallo Berlin is included as one of the best German restaurants in the US? Seems that restaurant was included because it is one of the very few places in Manhattan that serves German food. Hallo Berlin is merely ok but it's hardly the best.
There's a place just a few blocks from me, Rolf's, that I've heard is very good, but I've never eaten there. |
I've always have had a great meal at Helmers in Hoboken
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Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 15922713)
How is Bavarian food different?
Originally Posted by ShopAround
There's a place just a few blocks from me, Rolf's, that I've heard is very good, but I've never eaten there.
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The Black Forest Inn in Minneapolis is quite good. Especially in the summer they have a very nice outside area and the food is not bad an comes pretty close to the real deal. In addition I like Schumacher's New Prague Hotel in New Prague, MN. While more Hungarian/Austrian cuisine it is probably one of the nicest places claiming to be German and definitely a good kitchen.
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I can recommend:
Mecklenburg Gardens, Cincinnati, OH Schmidt's House of Sausage, Columbus, OH I visited both in 2010. Closer to home: Old Europe, Folsom, CA Speisekammer, Alameda, CA |
Originally Posted by traveltravel
(Post 15920997)
Phoenix does indeed have several German restaurants. My GPS had several listed. I visited one that was OK but not on par with my favorites. Check your local listings and please post a reply here if you find a great one!
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We had some German menus dropped off to us at work in Brooklyn (Bay Ridge) the other day. It looked and sounded authentic. I'll try to remember and look for it next week and report back here what the name of the restaurant was.
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Originally Posted by sent
(Post 15934261)
We had some German menus dropped off to us at work in Brooklyn (Bay Ridge) the other day. It looked and sounded authentic. I'll try to remember and look for it next week and report back here what the name of the restaurant was.
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Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 15922279)
I'd like to ask the people who seek out German restaurants stateside what specifically is the culinary attraction - curry wurst? french fries with mayonnaise? wiener schnitzel?, or is it just a festive thing to do?
The sausages and schnitzels are showcase examples of the longstanding tradition of family butchers all over Germany. There is sausage and then there is homemade wurst from the best ingredients. ;) Regional tastes also play a big role here. And the dicke Bohnen, Leipziger Allerlei, Grunkohl and other veggie specialities keep company to the meatier fare also through the winter, ensuring a balanced diet. Also a very important part of food culture in Germany is the Brotzeit which I would almost compare to Tapas. A few slices of good cold meats and/or cheeses, maybe some pickles and a glass or two of local beer or wine. What better for a nice chat with friends and family? Here in the Pfalz you don't need to look at a menu in a German restaurant because most places are identical, often with food cooked by the owner's wife who doubles as waitress- Three or four varieties of schnitzel - check Cordon bleu - check Rumpsteak - check etc, etc I know that Bavarian food is different, but I don't get down there much. Maybe that is what people call to mind when they think 'German' And it's no wonder that food traditions are also dumbing down in Germany considering the huge success of fast food joints and kebab sold on every street corner. But there is definitely more to cuisine ala Allemagne than just Schnitzel and Bratwurst. |
Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
(Post 15932069)
I can recommend:
Mecklenburg Gardens, Cincinnati, OH Schmidt's House of Sausage, Columbus, OH Old Europe, Folsom, CA Speisekammer, Alameda, CA Keep the suggestions coming! Please be sure to include the city/state with any restaurant names. |
Originally Posted by traveltravel
(Post 15958939)
Thanks for the nods - these have been added to the master list at the beginning of this thread.
Keep the suggestions coming! Please be sure to include the city/state with any restaurant names. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 15940359)
I'm most familiar with Nordrhein-Westfalen, Hessen and Berlin but isn't the Pfalz actually famous for their pig offal dish (Saumagen)? :)
And it's no wonder that food traditions are also dumbing down in Germany considering the huge success of fast food joints and kebab sold on every street corner. But there is definitely more to cuisine ala Allemagne than just Schnitzel and Bratwurst. I'm with you in respect to the kebab places. I was mentioning to my wife the other day that it is a shame that there is so much great Turkish food elsewhere, but here it is kebab place after kebab place, seemingly one on every corner. I haven't really seen anything to indicate an overabundance of fast food here, compared to elsewhere. We have a few McDonalds around, but not much else. Nordsee is in the slightly bigger towns, but I guess you could consider them fast food of sorts. |
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
(Post 15959517)
Yep, you can definitely get Saumagen in some places here if you should so desire.
I'm with you in respect to the kebab places. I was mentioning to my wife the other day that it is a shame that there is so much great Turkish food elsewhere, but here it is kebab place after kebab place, seemingly one on every corner I haven't really seen anything to indicate an overabundance of fast food here, compared to elsewhere. We have a few McDonalds around, but not much else. Nordsee is in the slightly bigger towns, but I guess you could consider them fast food of sorts. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 15959816)
Haven't actually tried it yet, but eating a lot of offal here in Asia so would suit my taste quite well, I suppose. What else is local to the Pfalze and maybe even to be recommended? ;)
http://www.burgschaenke-neuleiningen.de/ It's about an hour south of Frankfurt so I can't swear if it is in the Pfalz, Hessen, or Baden Wurtemburg. Exceedingly difficult to find without a GPS. Believe it is Polish run as we have heard the staff and owner speaking Polish amongst themselves, but I can't swear to that.
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 15959816)
In Berlin and Cologne where I normally spend my time in Germany, Doner really is just a sidenote in the Turkish restaurants. Ah, some of those chicken and lamb dishes, especially from the provinces bordering on Syria, are just too delicious with their Arab style rich flavours.
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Originally Posted by ShopAround
(Post 15925000)
I agree, I was very surprised to see it on the list. Their food, IMHO, is really not that great.
There's a place just a few blocks from me, Rolf's, that I've heard is very good, but I've never eaten there. Last I heard, most folks only go there for drinks and the garish seasonal decorations. Sadly my favorite NYC German Restaurant/Bar (Silver Swan) closed a few years back. It really was a wonderful neighborhood haunt attracting an extremely interesting mix of customers. |
Originally Posted by Analise
(Post 15937870)
Please do. I'd love to hear about it. :)
It's in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. I haven't tried it yet, they delivered a menu to the office and it got put in the rotation of menus for take-out when we're in the mood for schnitzel. |
Zum Schneider in the East Village, NYC. They have Schneider Weiss hefe weizen and Aventinus on tap. A rare find in the States.
The Ambry on Commercial Blvd in Ft Lauderdale. Two wheat beers on tap, along with a German dunkle and some others. It is owned by a family from Munich. It's a small neighborhood place with very attentive staff. Both these places serve my favorite German dish, Schweinehaxen (roast pork knuckle) with red cabbage and potato dumplings. They're pretty authentic. Also in South Florida, there is a Hofbrauhaus on Lincoln Rd Mall in South Beach. The food is so-so and I'm not really that crazy about HB's beer, but they have a nice selection of HB beer on tap and it's a fun place to hang out, drink German beer out of huge litre mugs and people watch. Man, I want to go back to Munich! |
Originally Posted by sent
(Post 15971358)
http://www.schnitzelhausny.com
It's in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. I haven't tried it yet, they delivered a menu to the office and it got put in the rotation of menus for take-out when we're in the mood for schnitzel. |
A couple additions...
#1 - The Bavarian Chef, outside Charlottesville, VA. I haven't been here in years, so I can't honestly say if they're still decent, but they used to be wonderful. We used to drive from DC to go there. Their website still exists - Bavarian Chef #2 and #3 - I like both the Penn Brewery and Max's Allegheny Tavern in Pittsburgh, PA. The Penn Brewery brews their own line of beers which are very good. Penn Brewery Max's #4 - The Edelweiss in Colorado Springs, CO. It's not amazing, but it's pretty good and the best German restaurant in town, IMHO. Edelweiss |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 15940359)
I'm most familiar with Nordrhein-Westfalen, Hessen and Berlin but isn't the Pfalz actually famous for their pig offal dish (Saumagen)? :) ... But there is definitely more to cuisine ala Allemagne than just Schnitzel and Bratwurst. Other specialities include Leberknödel (liver dumplings), Grumbeerpannekuche (potato pancakes), Zwiebelrostbraten, Zwetschenkuchen, Grumbeersuppe, Dampfnudeln...etc. etc. I agree completely, saying German cuisine is all about sausage and schnitzel is like saying American cuisine is all about burgers and fries. |
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