Cork Vs Screw
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I'm saying it was likely the shipping that caused the problems somehow. There are no problems with the wines here.
Here are a few wines I am drinking these days...
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20082413.html
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20080455.html
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20086885.html
You can see the prices on these links. But I have no idea what they go for in the US. And there are countless others out there. Just driving around and randomly visiting a couple wineries on a nice Saturday afternoon is half the fun. Maybe more than half. Use your miles to get here!
Here are a few wines I am drinking these days...
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20082413.html
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20080455.html
http://www.hachette-vins.com/le-guid...-20086885.html
You can see the prices on these links. But I have no idea what they go for in the US. And there are countless others out there. Just driving around and randomly visiting a couple wineries on a nice Saturday afternoon is half the fun. Maybe more than half. Use your miles to get here!
"driving around" one finds maryland and virginia wines. both are pretty lousy wines, and very overpriced, as "driving around, tasting wine, and buying wine" is a big sport in the area.
if i bought in europe, the cost to transport a reasonable amount of wine would be prohibitive. my vendors in italy used to put my wines in my container, but i am no longer in business, and since xraying of containers, my guess is i could not do it even if i wished.
i now just purchase distressed merchandise(stuff that got too old for the shelf), which is all i can afford. i just acquired a couple cases of '06 latour santenay at $10/ bottle.
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OK, I'll try to swing by there later this week. I'll check both the price and the taste; to see if it is really any better than some of the other excellent wines I have found around here.
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Cheers.
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I just bought a bottle of screwtop Argyle pinot noir about 10 minutes ago precisely because I realized that I left my corkscrew in the car (which is parked too far away to justify the walk). I went into the store with no intention of buying a stoppered bottle of wine. How's that for screwtops having their place?
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Unfortunately they never do any tests with the wines I like to age. Pulling some bottle from S. Africa from the 80s doesn't give me much confidence -- what's their aging track record? Give me a '78 Chave in screwcap and cork -- serve it to me blind and let me judge. I'm certainly not against screwcaps I just don't want them messing with the way my wine tastes. Maybe some say it's better and "fresher" but that might not be the style I prefer.
They will need to do similar experiments in Burgundy, Rhone and Bordeaux before they will be able to convince high end wine buyers.
They will need to do similar experiments in Burgundy, Rhone and Bordeaux before they will be able to convince high end wine buyers.
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not my style.
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whatsa chave verticle. the guy makes stuff from just above 2 buck chuck(sells for 15) up to something that a lot of people doo woopee for. bought a bunch of cornas once, for which he is bige time famous. was no thrill for me, but given my pallet, who cares. done a lot of st. joseph, and found a few white hermitage. \
not my style.
not my style.
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I'm currently drinking a 2006 Ladoix Clou d'Orge which cost around 30 (also a bit overpriced) and it's just about as good as the Corton-Charlemagne.
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OK, I went to Bouchard Pre et Fils today. It turns out they are just a producer who take some of the best grapes from lots of different areas in Burgundy. So Corton-Charlemagne seems to be what they consider the best of the best Chardonnay grapes. The best current year is 2007 here and that does indeed cost 80. But as Bouchard Pre et Fils is the middle-man, you are significantly overpaying. That said, if you don't know which are the good wines to get around here, you can be assured of getting a decent wine from these folks. You just have to pay a bit more. They have a real nice showroom and give you a nice wooden box for your wine (yes I took one for the team and bought a bottle) and they speak perfect English as it is sure that their clients are not local. 
I'm currently drinking a 2006 Ladoix Clou d'Orge which cost around 30 (also a bit overpriced) and it's just about as good as the Corton-Charlemagne.

I'm currently drinking a 2006 Ladoix Clou d'Orge which cost around 30 (also a bit overpriced) and it's just about as good as the Corton-Charlemagne.
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OK, I went to Bouchard Pre et Fils today. It turns out they are just a producer who take some of the best grapes from lots of different areas in Burgundy. So Corton-Charlemagne seems to be what they consider the best of the best Chardonnay grapes. The best current year is 2007 here and that does indeed cost 80. But as Bouchard Pre et Fils is the middle-man, you are significantly overpaying. That said, if you don't know which are the good wines to get around here, you can be assured of getting a decent wine from these folks. You just have to pay a bit more. They have a real nice showroom and give you a nice wooden box for your wine (yes I took one for the team and bought a bottle) and they speak perfect English as it is sure that their clients are not local. 
I'm currently drinking a 2006 Ladoix Clou d'Orge which cost around 30 (also a bit overpriced) and it's just about as good as the Corton-Charlemagne.

I'm currently drinking a 2006 Ladoix Clou d'Orge which cost around 30 (also a bit overpriced) and it's just about as good as the Corton-Charlemagne.

