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Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 14630228)
I forget what brand it was, but I've seen bourbon or whiskey with a cap that was actually a cork stopper.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 14630489)
That would be Wild Turkey. ^
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
(Post 14618752)
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For serious wine cork is the only alternative. Clearly I’m torn; but my scientific side tends to win such arguments. Ultimately corks will be a relic, much like a newspaper . . . |
Originally Posted by Delta747
(Post 14618142)
What do you think of screw tops on wine bottles? I personally think they look bad but the ease of opening is good. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 14630228)
I forget what brand it was, but I've seen bourbon or whiskey with a cap that was actually a cork stopper.
If I can suppress my inner snob, I'll admit to prefering a screwtop. I like the way they travel and lay down after being opened. I've never broken one halfway off. I've opened a few bottles of "corked" wine, but never one that was "screwed". I still travel with a corkscrew, especially to places where screwtops are less common, but that's just the boyscout in me. |
Originally Posted by slawecki
(Post 14629488)
using the screwcap people as a reference for the great values of screwcaps does not work for a peer review article.....
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Golly!
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Originally Posted by number_6
(Post 14637400)
Is UC Davis a sufficiently impartial source for you? Their Enology program is considered to be one of the best in the world (and has done much to advance the science of making wine, albeit in the world. But I do agree that snobbery in the wine world colours it considerably. See http://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/pdf/at...nd%20CS%20.pdf
"As the authors point out, they cannot conclude from this study whether oxygen is or is not required for red wine development because the trial did not include an anaerobic treatment (a zero-headspace or a vacuumed headspace). I would add that they cannot compare the effect of closures directly, because the headspaces in their experimental design were not the same." "This panel was also asked to perform descriptive analysis of the wines (at 11, 18, and 24 months post-bottling)." looks like decent study, however, the oldest wine in this test is 2 years old!! let's wait 10 years, and see how the Bordeaux age. i cannot recall the last time i bought a less than 2 year old wine(most clearances are on 4+yo wines). i do loose a few to bad corks and maderization, but live with it. |
Originally Posted by tuapekastar
(Post 14634596)
The sooner all wine is under screwcap the better. Easier to open and no chance of cork taint.
I agree and I believe you're going to see that day come sooner than many may realize. |
Originally Posted by tuapekastar
(Post 14634596)
... and no chance of cork taint.
It annoys me that the word "cork" is used to describe TCA (2,4,6-trichloroanisole) contamination of a wine. Cork is the most common vector for TCA to make its way into a wine, but many other implements used in the winemaking process--notably, wooden barrels--can be just as guilty. |
Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14642247)
False.
It annoys me that the word "cork" is used to describe TCA (2,4,6-trichloroanisole) contamination of a wine. Cork is the most common vector for TCA to make its way into a wine, but many other implements used in the winemaking process--notably, wooden barrels--can be just as guilty. However after what must be several thousands of bottles sampled, I don't think either has ever happened to me. So why worry? |
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slawecki-- I think you should contact Laura Catena about those Chards you have.... ^ |
Originally Posted by Jazzop
(Post 14642247)
False.
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 14630228)
I forget what brand it was, but I've seen bourbon or whiskey with a cap that was actually a cork stopper.
Strangely enough (to me, anyway), Americans seem to be bigger snobs than the French when it comes to corks versus synthetic corks, screwcaps, and especially box wines. |
the cleanup of burgundy and Tuscan wine cellars greatly reduced the mass TCA problem. BV had 2 or 3 vintages ruined from tca. i do not know how they finally resolved the problem. i know they new they had the problem, but they could not get the cellar clean.
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