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GadgetFreak Jun 19, 2010 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by deniah

Originally Posted by lancebanyon (Post 14160175)
Where are these places? I'm going to be all over the place in July; maybe I'll be nearby at one point.

They are all 1-3 hours away from Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas.

The cities are: Lockhart, Luling, Llano, Taylor, Lexington

It's quite contentious what the best places are but few people would disagree City Market of Luling is at the very top. I also like Louie Mueller's of Taylor. Snow's in Lexington is a recent fad. Franklin Barbecue (in Austin!!!) is the newest fad.

others:
Cooper's (llano)
Smitty's (lockhart)
Blacks (lockhart)
Kreutz (lockhart)
Taylor Cafe (taylor)
Salt Lick (austin hill country)

check the open times because some of these places have very limited opening hours, and/or they run out of food EARLY.

as a backup, the Rudys BBQ chain is very very reliable and easily accessible

stay away from anything in the actual city of houston and dallas

Feel free to be sort of maybe impressed ;)

number_6 Jun 19, 2010 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by jspira (Post 14152215)
This is one of those threads which keeps me coming back to FT.

I am surprised, however, that no one has brought up the fact that one has little control over salt content and other additives when dining out. I´m very careful about my use of salt and fat, for example - but many restaurants make up for a lack of technique and/or flavor by overusing such items. This is one of several reasons I truly enjoy dining and cooking at home.
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"Super Size Me" was about eating at McDonalds, but the same applies to any commercially prepared food, including the finest haute cuisine. It is simple unhealthy to eat daily! For lots of reasons. Flavour is punched up using salt and butter at the best restaurants, and with MSG, saturated fats and worse additives at most restaurants. Lots of preservatives are added (thankfully so, otherwise it would be life threatening to eat at many places!).

At home you can control these, and in some parts of the world you can source high quality ingredients. Great progress has been made in that respect in the past decade; so it is possible to prepare food that is tastier and healthier at home than any restaurant can. For example I use free-range eggs now, because the taste is so much better than cage eggs. Meat that is "heart smart" is also available in some countries (though the US lags in that!), and it is both leaner and tastier ... as well as hormone and antibiotic free. Cost is far less than restaurant food, yet better in every way. Of course restaurants could use such ingredients and cook that way; a few do, but most find it is not commercially viable except at the high end.

deniah Jun 20, 2010 7:58 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14162798)
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Feel free to be sort of maybe impressed ;)

i give you credits for guessing so close for a yank but the pictures are from luling :D

GadgetFreak Jun 20, 2010 9:33 am


Originally Posted by deniah (Post 14164585)
i give you credits for guessing so close for a yank but the pictures are from luling :D

Thanks. But at least I was close. The plate of food could have easily been from Blacks. And boy did it make me hungry to look at it ;)

Pryde987 Jun 26, 2010 4:02 am


Originally Posted by JumboJ (Post 14095405)
Actually I think I'm trending the other way. The whole pomp and process of "fine dining" seems progressively more silly to me as over and over again I find that my palate is much more stimulated by "down at the heels" ethnic food than most haute cuisine. Not that I won't take the lady out for the high end experience from time to time, but truth be told that experience is less about the food and more about the intangibles.. as my mouth alone would generally be more stimulated by some Indian or Thai, both of which are seldom particularly expensive or fancy. Also of these are cuisines that I'd not be able to prepare reasonably myself. I am however, perfectly adept at searing a scallop or grilling a steak. Generally I like very, very spicy food. I don't find much haute cuisine fitting this description.

Pretty much this. I don't spend too much on food when I'm dining (bachelor life), but my job sees me eat at some of the finer restaurants both domestically and internationally. I'm rarely impressed by fine dining, especially all the pomp and circumstance. I would rather eat some defining ethnic food that can usually be found at a reasonable price, though moving to San Diego and then Orange County makes it hard to find legitimate hole-in-the-wall ethnic food since it's so expensive to live here.

If I may digress, an episode of Top Chef completely represents who I am not. There was an episode where the competitors grouped up and made food for some soldiers. Since it was a picnic, a group decided to make a potato salad. I'm sure it was fantastic! Padma scolded that team, saying that the dish was "cliché." IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE SHOW, THAT WAS THE ONLY POTATO SALAD. PICNIC FOOD AT A PICNIC, OH MY. So, if someone offers her the FOTM, she'll eat it. She's the type to praise 7 different scallop dishes in a row because that obviously wouldn't be cliché. If it's peasant food, she'll reject it-- unless peasant food is en vogue, of course.

She's a miserable human being and I hope she cries herself to sleep at night.

Anyway, do I love some lobster bisque, foie gras, and a filet? Sure. Do I also love burritos? Cheeseburgers? You bet. Do I find it necessary to spend $100 on a meal to be satisfied? Of course not. I'd rather go find a sloppy burrito, explore some Afghani food, or experience something where the spice is more important than price. Of course, I'm the type that normally drinks $2 Pabst Blue Ribbon, but also enjoys a $20 bottle of Hitachino Nest White Ale. I would rather live alone than date someone who judges food by its price or the restaurant at which its served.

Italy98 Jul 1, 2010 10:59 am

We look at fine dining as a reward for when we dine at less than stellar places.

zcat18 Jul 1, 2010 1:04 pm

Meh--I like to think I've eaten pretty well both abroad and at home, but I still prefer Cracker Barrel or a $5 panini (if done right) to just about any "haute" cuisine I've ever tried.

That being said, I do become a bit of a snob about ethic food. For instance, having spent a lot of time in China, I find myself turning my nose up at "Chinese" food in America (well, I've finally gotten mostly over that one), even though the truth is that, while not authentic, it tastes darn good, and at the end of the day, isn't that the point?

GadgetFreak Jul 1, 2010 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by zcat18 (Post 14227139)
Meh--I like to think I've eaten pretty well both abroad and at home, but I still prefer Cracker Barrel or a $5 panini (if done right) to just about any "haute" cuisine I've ever tried.

That being said, I do become a bit of a snob about ethic food. For instance, having spent a lot of time in China, I find myself turning my nose up at "Chinese" food in America (well, I've finally gotten mostly over that one), even though the truth is that, while not authentic, it tastes darn good, and at the end of the day, isn't that the point?

If you prefer Cracker Barrel to haute cuisine, you might need to reevaluate your cuisine (or at least your haute). ;) Im sorry, that is just wrong.

zcat18 Jul 1, 2010 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14227611)
If you prefer Cracker Barrel to haute cuisine, you might need to reevaluate your cuisine (or at least your haute). ;) Im sorry, that is just wrong.

lol--Hey, we all have our guilty pleasures :cool:.

Obviously, I prefer Joel Robuchon to Cracker Barrel (at least when I'm not jonesing for a trucker breakfast), but I think my general point stands.

jspira Jul 1, 2010 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14227611)
If you prefer Cracker Barrel to haute cuisine, you might need to reevaluate your cuisine (or at least your haute). ;) Im sorry, that is just wrong.

à chacun son goût

GadgetFreak Jul 1, 2010 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by jspira (Post 14227691)
à chacun son goût

In general yes, but have you actually been in a Cracker Barrel. :(

GadgetFreak Jul 1, 2010 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by zcat18 (Post 14227664)
lol--Hey, we all have our guilty pleasures :cool:.

Obviously, I prefer Joel Robuchon to Cracker Barrel (at least when I'm not jonesing for a trucker breakfast), but I think my general point stands.

If you would have said White Castle, or Purina okay, but Cracker Barrel........

zcat18 Jul 1, 2010 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14227745)
If you would have said White Castle, or Purina okay, but Cracker Barrel........

Oh, seriously? You have a particular thing against Cracker Barrel?

Have you ever TRIED their chicken fried chicken, catfish, or just about anything on the breakfast menu??

A stop at CB is a REQUIREMENT on any road trip I take.

GadgetFreak Jul 1, 2010 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by zcat18 (Post 14227794)
Oh, seriously? You have a particular thing against Cracker Barrel?

Have you ever TRIED their chicken fried chicken, catfish, or just about anything on the breakfast menu??

A stop at CB is a REQUIREMENT on any road trip I take.

Yes. I have been to them. My mom used to like to go there. I would have to go sometimes when I visited. It made me sad to just go in there.

zcat18 Jul 1, 2010 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14227916)
Yes. I have been to them. My mom used to like to go there. I would have to go sometimes when I visited. It made me sad to just go in there.

Fried eggs, grits, and biscuits & gravy served with a heaping helping of southern-style friendliness makes you sad? :confused:


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