Tax on Coupons and Tips On Tax
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Given that one of the appeals of rebates over cost reductions is that there's some float on the rebate cash, perhaps with instant rebates there's some "float" on the item that the manufacturer holds until sold? Because the other appeal with rebates - that not all eligible customers will actually bother to redeem them - won't be the case with the "instant" variety...
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To me, the difference is subtle but real.
If you see something on the menu like $10 off on Thursdays, or BOGO, that becomes the price of the item. (Your $29 entree is now a $19 dollar entree), or in the case of a BOGO one will be listed on the bill under some variation of $0.
When you order a meal and present a coupon, the coupon becomes your form of payment, not a discount on the price. In the example above, if you had a $10 coupon, the price of the Entree is still $29. You PAY the total bill using your $10 coupon as part of the payment.
If you see something on the menu like $10 off on Thursdays, or BOGO, that becomes the price of the item. (Your $29 entree is now a $19 dollar entree), or in the case of a BOGO one will be listed on the bill under some variation of $0.
When you order a meal and present a coupon, the coupon becomes your form of payment, not a discount on the price. In the example above, if you had a $10 coupon, the price of the Entree is still $29. You PAY the total bill using your $10 coupon as part of the payment.
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This depends on the state.
I've done this in California (for sales tax calculations only) and had the waitstaff argue. it's not worth it if it's a dollar or 2 esp if the waitrons are stupid which they typically are.
Also the whole 18% tip destroys the whole concept of tipping for service but is not necessarily illegal or against the rules.
In California sales tax is collected by board of equalization.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub113.pdf
If the coupon is "third party" e.g. (manufacturer) sales tax is charged on the full amount. If the coupon comes from the restaurant itself I would say it's not 3rd party and sales tax should be charged on the discounted amount.
I am sure this could be argued but the entertainment and restaurant.com coupons don't seem to be 3rd party.
I've done this in California (for sales tax calculations only) and had the waitstaff argue. it's not worth it if it's a dollar or 2 esp if the waitrons are stupid which they typically are.
Also the whole 18% tip destroys the whole concept of tipping for service but is not necessarily illegal or against the rules.
In California sales tax is collected by board of equalization.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub113.pdf
If the coupon is "third party" e.g. (manufacturer) sales tax is charged on the full amount. If the coupon comes from the restaurant itself I would say it's not 3rd party and sales tax should be charged on the discounted amount.
I am sure this could be argued but the entertainment and restaurant.com coupons don't seem to be 3rd party.
Nothing annoys me more, yet falls just short of risking an argument with the waitstaff.
I will use a Restaurant.com certificate, or an Entertainment book coupon, and they will calculate tax on the pre-discount amount. Then, they will add tax and mandatory tip on the pre-discounted amount plus tax!
Difference is about $5. Now I know that tax doesn't apply to coupon's, except when they are being reimbursed by a manufacturer. We know that Restaurant.com and Entertainment arnt' reimbursing restaurants for the coupons/certificates.
Has anyone ever challenged a restaurant on this shady practice?
I will use a Restaurant.com certificate, or an Entertainment book coupon, and they will calculate tax on the pre-discount amount. Then, they will add tax and mandatory tip on the pre-discounted amount plus tax!
Difference is about $5. Now I know that tax doesn't apply to coupon's, except when they are being reimbursed by a manufacturer. We know that Restaurant.com and Entertainment arnt' reimbursing restaurants for the coupons/certificates.
Has anyone ever challenged a restaurant on this shady practice?

