gifted medallion status...
Sep 3, 2009, 1:04 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 10
gifted medallion status...
Hi there, I am a silver on delta, my father is diamond, he can now gift one gold status to someone, if he gifts it to me , would that make me a platinum then?
Sep 3, 2009, 1:07 pm
#2
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MCO
Programs: DL DM,MM; AS; USeless Air, HHonors Diamond, Starwood Plat, Hyatt Gold
Posts: 564
Sep 3, 2009, 3:09 pm
#3
Join Date: May 2009
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 34
... slightly off topic and prob stupid: if I were to match to AA (with currently 250 MQM on Delta) I guess I would receive after a challenge Plat ... to then reach EXP: will I have to start with 0 Status Miles and subsequently fly 100k or only 25k?
Sorry - but I never did a match before ...
Sorry - but I never did a match before ...
Sep 3, 2009, 3:29 pm
#4
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.4MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,222
Sep 3, 2009, 4:38 pm
#5
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Madison, NJ
Programs: DL PM, Marriot Platinum
Posts: 2,560
I think the OP rationale was that if his father gifted Gold to someone without status, they would go from no status to Gold, which is essentially two levels.
I think the OP then assumed that since he was already silver, the gifted Gold would be worth two level increase, thus skipping Gold and landing him PM.
But I think we clarified that it switches whatever status you are to Gold. So if you wanted to be a not so nice person, you gift your PM or DM friend Gold status, send it in to DL in their name and watch them be downgraded with glee!
I think the OP then assumed that since he was already silver, the gifted Gold would be worth two level increase, thus skipping Gold and landing him PM.
But I think we clarified that it switches whatever status you are to Gold. So if you wanted to be a not so nice person, you gift your PM or DM friend Gold status, send it in to DL in their name and watch them be downgraded with glee!
Sep 3, 2009, 4:40 pm
#6
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Madison, NJ
Programs: DL PM, Marriot Platinum
Posts: 2,560
... slightly off topic and prob stupid: if I were to match to AA (with currently 250 MQM on Delta) I guess I would receive after a challenge Plat ... to then reach EXP: will I have to start with 0 Status Miles and subsequently fly 100k or only 25k?
Sorry - but I never did a match before ...
Sorry - but I never did a match before ...
Sep 3, 2009, 5:30 pm
#7
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Northern VA
Programs: DL DM, UA 1K
Posts: 142
I would never do this, but I am certainly impressed by the evil way you think :-)
Sep 3, 2009, 6:19 pm
#8
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AA LT PLT, DL PLT, HH DIA, IHG PLT, Hertz PLT, Bonvoy GLD, Avis Pres Club
Posts: 1,265
AA is a bit different from DL, in that we have EQ Miles and EQ points. EQ Miles are ACTUAL MILES FLOWN no matter what class of service or fare basis.
EQ Points are based on the actual miles flown multiplied by a multiplier that is determined by your fare basis. All paid F/J seats use a multiplier of 1.5. Select full-economy fares also give you 1.5 points. Discounted economy gives you 1 point, while deeply discounted economy gives you 0.5 points. In addition, there are some fare bases on certain international routes that earn 0 points (but you still get miles). Read the wiki for more info...
For your PLT challenge you need to earn 10,000 points (not miles) in 90 days. This can be done with as few as 6,666 miles with the right kind of fare.
Now for the meat and potatoes of your original question. From the AA Challenge Wiki: "Successful completion of a challenge does not provide a shortcut to the next higher elite level. When you complete a Platinum Challenge you are not half-way to Executive Platinum (EXP) status. To reach EXP status you will still have to earn 100,000 EQMs, 100,000 EQPs or 100 Flight Segments during a qualifying year. The actual number of EQMs and EQPs and Segments earned during the challenge count towards a higher status level during the remainder of the qualifying year using the regular AA elite qualification standards."
But, the good news is that since you're starting your challenge after June 16, your earned challenge status is valid until Feb 28, 2011. You have the ENTIRE calendar year 2010 to requalify for PLT or upgrade to EXP.
Be cautious, however. AA does not have rollover miles and any "extra" miles you fly this year do NOT count towards earning status next year.
Sep 3, 2009, 6:32 pm
#9
Join Date: May 2009
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 34
I'm a lurker from AA, so I think I can address this.
AA is a bit different from DL, in that we have EQ Miles and EQ points. EQ Miles are ACTUAL MILES FLOWN no matter what class of service or fare basis.
EQ Points are based on the actual miles flown multiplied by a multiplier that is determined by your fare basis. All paid F/J seats use a multiplier of 1.5. Select full-economy fares also give you 1.5 points. Discounted economy gives you 1 point, while deeply discounted economy gives you 0.5 points. In addition, there are some fare bases on certain international routes that earn 0 points (but you still get miles). Read the wiki for more info...
For your PLT challenge you need to earn 10,000 points (not miles) in 90 days. This can be done with as few as 6,666 miles with the right kind of fare.
Now for the meat and potatoes of your original question. From the AA Challenge Wiki: "Successful completion of a challenge does not provide a shortcut to the next higher elite level. When you complete a Platinum Challenge you are not half-way to Executive Platinum (EXP) status. To reach EXP status you will still have to earn 100,000 EQMs, 100,000 EQPs or 100 Flight Segments during a qualifying year. The actual number of EQMs and EQPs and Segments earned during the challenge count towards a higher status level during the remainder of the qualifying year using the regular AA elite qualification standards."
But, the good news is that since you're starting your challenge after June 16, your earned challenge status is valid until Feb 28, 2011. You have the ENTIRE calendar year 2010 to requalify for PLT or upgrade to EXP.
Be cautious, however. AA does not have rollover miles and any "extra" miles you fly this year do NOT count towards earning status next year.
AA is a bit different from DL, in that we have EQ Miles and EQ points. EQ Miles are ACTUAL MILES FLOWN no matter what class of service or fare basis.
EQ Points are based on the actual miles flown multiplied by a multiplier that is determined by your fare basis. All paid F/J seats use a multiplier of 1.5. Select full-economy fares also give you 1.5 points. Discounted economy gives you 1 point, while deeply discounted economy gives you 0.5 points. In addition, there are some fare bases on certain international routes that earn 0 points (but you still get miles). Read the wiki for more info...
For your PLT challenge you need to earn 10,000 points (not miles) in 90 days. This can be done with as few as 6,666 miles with the right kind of fare.
Now for the meat and potatoes of your original question. From the AA Challenge Wiki: "Successful completion of a challenge does not provide a shortcut to the next higher elite level. When you complete a Platinum Challenge you are not half-way to Executive Platinum (EXP) status. To reach EXP status you will still have to earn 100,000 EQMs, 100,000 EQPs or 100 Flight Segments during a qualifying year. The actual number of EQMs and EQPs and Segments earned during the challenge count towards a higher status level during the remainder of the qualifying year using the regular AA elite qualification standards."
But, the good news is that since you're starting your challenge after June 16, your earned challenge status is valid until Feb 28, 2011. You have the ENTIRE calendar year 2010 to requalify for PLT or upgrade to EXP.
Be cautious, however. AA does not have rollover miles and any "extra" miles you fly this year do NOT count towards earning status next year.
Sep 3, 2009, 6:37 pm
#10
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sunny Florida
Posts: 637
you're not the first to come up with this brilliant idea....but no dice.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-get-gold.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-get-gold.html
Sep 3, 2009, 6:51 pm
#11
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Gold, Marriott Plat (lifetime)
Posts: 302
you're not the first to come up with this brilliant idea....but no dice.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-get-gold.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-get-gold.html
Dear M---------------,
Thank you for your recent e-mail.
Unfortunately, you are not able to grant someone Silver status that
already has Silver Elite Status. You will need to select a member that
is currently at the Base level.
Thank you for choosing Northwest, KLM, Delta and our SkyTeam Alliance
airlines. We value your patronage and consider it a privilege to serve
your travel needs.
Sincerely,
Jenny Black
WorldPerks Customer Service Center
Sep 3, 2009, 7:52 pm
#12
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.4MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,222
In fact, this from the nice people at customer service when asked if a gift of SE to one who is already SE results in GE:
Dear M---------------,
Thank you for your recent e-mail.
Unfortunately, you are not able to grant someone Silver status that
already has Silver Elite Status. You will need to select a member that
is currently at the Base level.
Thank you for choosing Northwest, KLM, Delta and our SkyTeam Alliance
airlines. We value your patronage and consider it a privilege to serve
your travel needs.
Sincerely,
Jenny Black
WorldPerks Customer Service Center
Dear M---------------,
Thank you for your recent e-mail.
Unfortunately, you are not able to grant someone Silver status that
already has Silver Elite Status. You will need to select a member that
is currently at the Base level.
Thank you for choosing Northwest, KLM, Delta and our SkyTeam Alliance
airlines. We value your patronage and consider it a privilege to serve
your travel needs.
Sincerely,
Jenny Black
WorldPerks Customer Service Center
Sep 3, 2009, 8:36 pm
#13
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 238
If you are gifting status....Im available....Im a base mbr...(employee), and I would love it! I buy more tkts these days anyway with the flt loads!
Sep 9, 2009, 10:36 am
#14
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Atlanta
Programs: DL GM, Mar Slv, HH Gld
Posts: 58
The OP asks a great question - one I had myself about the Diamond "gift."
The idea is not silly -- if you have the Chase Marriott Rewards Visa card, you know that the "status" they "give" you for having the card actually comes as the number of nights required for the first tier of Elite status. Thus, you essentially are able to "build" on top of it. The DL equiv would be applying 25,000 MQM to the assignee's account, and letting the resulting status play out from there (simply FO, or further to GM, PM, DM).
This would be a very nice enhancement. And further, allowing rollover MQM to your own account (for future year use) or assign the MQMs to another member for same year use.
The idea is not silly -- if you have the Chase Marriott Rewards Visa card, you know that the "status" they "give" you for having the card actually comes as the number of nights required for the first tier of Elite status. Thus, you essentially are able to "build" on top of it. The DL equiv would be applying 25,000 MQM to the assignee's account, and letting the resulting status play out from there (simply FO, or further to GM, PM, DM).
This would be a very nice enhancement. And further, allowing rollover MQM to your own account (for future year use) or assign the MQMs to another member for same year use.