"I" Fare on International travel????
#16
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I Class issues with Delta
With I-class fares you have to book 50 days in advance of departure date (which is why they may not show up if you book, say, for next month). You do get full business class Medallion credit, however--50% mileage bonus+ 200% MQM.
I was using the I class all last year for BOS-MXP on Alitalia but Delta has now banned DL codeshares on AZ with I fares... You know, Alitalia has to reserve business class for friends, oh, sorry, I mean paying business class customers.
I was using the I class all last year for BOS-MXP on Alitalia but Delta has now banned DL codeshares on AZ with I fares... You know, Alitalia has to reserve business class for friends, oh, sorry, I mean paying business class customers.
#17
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
I've never flown on an I ticket myself. However, it is my understanding that for class-of-service and MQM purposes, it is considered as full-fare Y not business class.
They are often available from ATL to the European destinations that DAL flies in and out of. I'm pretty sure they are best found if you book well in advance of the flight--you won't find them last minute.
Last edited by atl runner; Apr 25, 2004 at 10:33 am
#18
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Originally Posted by chuck1
Or does anyone know of other carriers matching?
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Originally Posted by MGR
I was using the I class all last year for BOS-MXP on Alitalia but Delta has now banned DL codeshares on AZ with I fares... You know, Alitalia has to reserve business class for friends, oh, sorry, I mean paying business class customers.
In February I could have gotten Alitalia Business Class to New York, Chicago, or Miami for $1600 r/t!
#20
Join Date: Apr 2004
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DL "I-LEISL" Fares
Delta's "I" fares are pretty much systemwide to most if not all of Delta's Online Transatlantic Destinations. As the previous poster stated there is a 50 Advance Purchase and the fares have several other restrictions. They usually range from $1900 - $2300. These fares currently have a last ticket date. Most airlines have matched Delta's "I" fare initiative.
Delta's Online Transatlantic Destinations: AMS, ATH, BCN, BOM, BRU, CDG, A, DUB, FCO, FRA, IST, LGW, MAD, MAN, MUC, MXP, NCE, SNN, STR, SVO, VCE, ZRH.
Delta's Online Transatlantic Destinations: AMS, ATH, BCN, BOM, BRU, CDG, A, DUB, FCO, FRA, IST, LGW, MAD, MAN, MUC, MXP, NCE, SNN, STR, SVO, VCE, ZRH.
#21
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Some I fares offered from Europe have no minimum advanced purchase requirements.
#22
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"I" Fares to NRT
Are there any special restrictions besides the 50 day advance and 7 day stay for "I" fares to NRT? I was looking at dates in September on the Availability Tool and they show 7 "I" seats on the chart, but when I go to Delta.com to book the "J" fare is the only one I can get to show up. Is this something I need to call for reservations for to have them look for?
Has anyone ever seen or successfully gotten an "I" fare from anywhere in the US to NRT? What was the approximate fare?
Has anyone ever seen or successfully gotten an "I" fare from anywhere in the US to NRT? What was the approximate fare?
#23
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I saw an awsome I fare the other day- AUS-LGW-AUS $1655 RT. Now it's not there anymore
#24
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"I" Fares
First Off, ATLNRT is not a DL transatlantic market - it is transpacific. According to my knowledge the "I" fares still exist. Make sure you itinerary has a 7D Min / 30 D Max - 50 D AP. If it does and it still doesn't price then either there are no "I" seats or no "I" fares in that market. Tickets Must Be Purchased By 27May. Any I fares from Europe to the US may have different ticketing restrictions. The ones for U.S. originating traffic have a 50 D A.P.
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As I recall this "I" fare was a special"Excursion Fare" promotion which had to be booked and ticketed sometime ago, for travel this year. It was a special rate, in the $2,000 range for International B/E travel to specified European gateways. It did not include all destinations flown by DL. Also, it required a minimum of 7 night stay and one was rewarded with MQM's computed at 2x's instead of the standard 1.5x's for M/B fare. I think when I checked on and booked mine, it was about $250 more for this than the regular quoted M/B fare. Also, there was a $300 change fee.
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Originally Posted by Firstmate
As I recall this "I" fare was a special"Excursion Fare" promotion which had to be booked and ticketed sometime ago, for travel this year. It was a special rate, in the $2,000 range for International B/E travel to specified European gateways. It did not include all destinations flown by DL. Also, it required a minimum of 7 night stay and one was rewarded with MQM's computed at 2x's instead of the standard 1.5x's for M/B fare. I think when I checked on and booked mine, it was about $250 more for this than the regular quoted M/B fare. Also, there was a $300 change fee.
And the same applies to domestic FC (A) fares, although I know they only offer them because of competition from Air Tran and others (meaning they should offer them anyway for the same reasons stated above in regard to "I" fares).
DAL's problems aren't just the revenues they bring in, it's their cost structure. The old revenue model is history. Leo, the bean counter with an understanding of people equivalent to a pet rock, saw the revenue side as the problem and tried to take it out of/on the customers. Where revenue becomes a problem is in driving away many good customers. We know how effective that was/is. Unless they get their costs under control, and attract and keep good paying customers, they and those of us who fly them are out of luck. I think the current management understands that--I sure hope so.
Last edited by atl runner; Apr 27, 2004 at 2:04 pm
#27
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Originally Posted by sammy343
Are there any special restrictions besides the 50 day advance and 7 day stay for "I" fares to NRT? I was looking at dates in September on the Availability Tool and they show 7 "I" seats on the chart, but when I go to Delta.com to book the "J" fare is the only one I can get to show up. Is this something I need to call for reservations for to have them look for?
Has anyone ever seen or successfully gotten an "I" fare from anywhere in the US to NRT? What was the approximate fare?
Has anyone ever seen or successfully gotten an "I" fare from anywhere in the US to NRT? What was the approximate fare?
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Just because you see "I7" doesn't mean you can get an I seat...
Just because you see an I seat available on Galileo (or other service), it doesn't mean DL is offering I fares for the routing of that particular flight - it might only be available when purchased as part of a thru-trip. For example, you might be able to do I on CVG-JFK-CDG, but you might not be able to do I on CVG-JFK only (even if it shows I7 on the website).
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Originally Posted by NYBanker
Just because you see an I seat available on Galileo (or other service), it doesn't mean DL is offering I fares for the routing of that particular flight - it might only be available when purchased as part of a thru-trip. For example, you might be able to do I on CVG-JFK-CDG, but you might not be able to do I on CVG-JFK only (even if it shows I7 on the website).
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Originally Posted by runningshoes
Since DL cut back on the number of flights to Japan, I've never seen an "I" fare on the NRT routes, and that's a route either I or someone else from the company is on a few times a year. My guess is that it's packed the whole year and there is no reason to discount to "I".
Originally Posted by NYBanker
Just because you see an I seat available on Galileo (or other service), it doesn't mean DL is offering I fares for the routing of that particular flight - it might only be available when purchased as part of a thru-trip. For example, you might be able to do I on CVG-JFK-CDG, but you might not be able to do I on CVG-JFK only (even if it shows I7 on the website).