Ease of Getting Upgrade to BE from Y Class Using Miles
Jun 22, 2001 | 9:17 am
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Ease of Getting Upgrade to BE from Y Class Using Miles
Hi,
I am thinking about transferring some miles from my AMEX account to Delta to take advantage of a bonus mile offer I got in the mail. Before doing this, I want to know how easy it is to get an upgrade to BE from a full fare economy ticket (20,000 miles RT). I'd probably use the ticket next March or next summer and would go to either Germany, Greece or Italy.
Thanks for any answers!
I am thinking about transferring some miles from my AMEX account to Delta to take advantage of a bonus mile offer I got in the mail. Before doing this, I want to know how easy it is to get an upgrade to BE from a full fare economy ticket (20,000 miles RT). I'd probably use the ticket next March or next summer and would go to either Germany, Greece or Italy.
Thanks for any answers!
Jun 22, 2001 | 9:24 am
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You can call beforehand to check. There have been lots of threads about waitlisted upgrades that did not clear, so I would advise you only to purchase a flight that actually has the upgrade seats.
Jun 22, 2001 | 12:14 pm
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And if the upgrade does clear by 24 hours before on an international flight you WILL NOT get it at the gate. Also an international upgrade AFAIK is 40000 miles round trip - at least thats what it cost me on a Y fare
Jun 22, 2001 | 12:19 pm
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Attention, this award is pretty new:
One-way, One-Class Upgrade From Full Coach Fare - 10,000 miles (D431)
The "old" and regular one is:
One-way, One-Class Upgrade From Select Fares - 20,000 miles (D531)
One-way, One-Class Upgrade From Full Coach Fare - 10,000 miles (D431)
The "old" and regular one is:
One-way, One-Class Upgrade From Select Fares - 20,000 miles (D531)
Jun 22, 2001 | 2:09 pm
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please tell me more about D431. thanks.
Jun 22, 2001 | 3:04 pm
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This is great news. A step in the right direction. They've also reduced mileage requirements from 25,000 miles to 12,500, to upgrade full coach to Japan. UA's reduced mileage requirements for full coach applies to Y and B fares. I hope DL recognizes B as well.
The next step, which is equally important, is to ease up on capacity controls for upgrade seats in BE.
The next step, which is equally important, is to ease up on capacity controls for upgrade seats in BE.
Jun 22, 2001 | 3:18 pm
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Valid fares for the cheaper awards:
Japan: Y,YO2,YR,YX1,YW1
Europe: Y,YRWB,YWB
B might be unrestricted, but in those markets, it's not full fare...
Japan: Y,YO2,YR,YX1,YW1
Europe: Y,YRWB,YWB
B might be unrestricted, but in those markets, it's not full fare...
Jun 22, 2001 | 5:25 pm
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Here is a relevant story, titled "Delta Introduces New International SkyMiles Awards; New Upgrades, New Awards, New Routes", from Yahoo:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010622/atf017.html
Jun 23, 2001 | 3:39 am
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I'm looking at going to Russia later this year, and glad I found this !
I talked to the Skymiles Desk last night and specifically asked about upgradeable, fully-refundable tickets. Ticket was $2100, plus the 40,000 miles (which looks like it should be 20,000 miles).
Anyone know if Delta will consider Russia to be something OTHER than Europe ?
I talked to the Skymiles Desk last night and specifically asked about upgradeable, fully-refundable tickets. Ticket was $2100, plus the 40,000 miles (which looks like it should be 20,000 miles).
Anyone know if Delta will consider Russia to be something OTHER than Europe ?
Jun 23, 2001 | 8:14 am
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40K r/t looks fine for me - I guess you're not on full-fare! (Many B class fares are fully refundable)
Jun 23, 2001 | 8:29 am
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Where are the qualifying fares published?
Jun 23, 2001 | 8:52 am
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You gotta call. It would be a nice move if DL put them on their website though.
Jun 25, 2001 | 3:39 pm
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Todd:
I used 40K miles for an upgrade on the JFK-SVO run last Summer (consistent with the rules at the time). Believe me, you *want* to fly biz on Fl #30, even if they do stick you for 40K.
If this is your first trip to Russia and you have any questions about SVO/Immigration/Customs, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected]
Regards,
O/H
I used 40K miles for an upgrade on the JFK-SVO run last Summer (consistent with the rules at the time). Believe me, you *want* to fly biz on Fl #30, even if they do stick you for 40K.
If this is your first trip to Russia and you have any questions about SVO/Immigration/Customs, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected]
Regards,
O/H
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by ToddETurner:
I'm looking at going to Russia later this year, and glad I found this !
I talked to the Skymiles Desk last night and specifically asked about upgradeable, fully-refundable tickets. Ticket was $2100, plus the 40,000 miles (which looks like it should be 20,000 miles).
Anyone know if Delta will consider Russia to be something OTHER than Europe ?</font>
I'm looking at going to Russia later this year, and glad I found this !
I talked to the Skymiles Desk last night and specifically asked about upgradeable, fully-refundable tickets. Ticket was $2100, plus the 40,000 miles (which looks like it should be 20,000 miles).
Anyone know if Delta will consider Russia to be something OTHER than Europe ?</font>
Jun 25, 2001 | 7:15 pm
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Just because a fare is refundable doesn't mean that it is full-fare. Generally a B fare is a discounted refundable coach fare (not 100% sure about Delta's B fares). But since it is not "Y" is requires the discount fare upgrade mileage.
Kudos for AA to recognizing this confusion. They could B fares the same as Y for the purpose of upgrades (mileage amounts and complimentary upgrades for Executive Platinum top-tier elites on full-fares).
Kudos for AA to recognizing this confusion. They could B fares the same as Y for the purpose of upgrades (mileage amounts and complimentary upgrades for Executive Platinum top-tier elites on full-fares).
Jun 26, 2001 | 2:05 am
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Todd:
It sounds like you are flexible. Make the reservation that you would like with the availability in BE as an ugrade. They reserve the seat. You xfer your AMEX points, you call back to buy the ticket and upgrade....
I do this often....
It sounds like you are flexible. Make the reservation that you would like with the availability in BE as an ugrade. They reserve the seat. You xfer your AMEX points, you call back to buy the ticket and upgrade....
I do this often....