Apr 15, 2015, 11:30 am
Last edit by: lamont2718
Last updated: 8/29/2016
In early 2015, Delta began publishing blackout dates for DL award redemptions on China Southern flights. The following blackout dates are now found in the Delta SkyMiles terms and conditions (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...blackout+dates):
Europe to China
2016
Mar. 18 - Mar. 26
Apr. 13 - Apr. 23
Jun. 25 - Aug. 30
Oct. 4 - Oct. 23
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to Europe
2016
Jan. 2 - Jan. 15
Mar. 27 - Apr. 10
Apr. 17 - Apr. 28
Jun. 20 - Oct. 2
Oct. 17 - Oct. 28
North America to China
2016
Feb. 12 - Feb. 24
May 12 - Jun. 30
Jul. 25 - Aug. 31
Oct. 4 - Oct. 14
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to North America
2016
Jan 2. - Jan. 15
Jan. 29 - Feb. 9
Jun. 24 - Sep. 4
Sep. 27 - Oct. 2
Oceania to China
2016
Jan. 1 - Jan. 5
Feb. 11 - Feb. 22
Jun. 19 - Jun. 27
Nov. 29 - Jan. 10, 2017
China to Oceania
2016
Jan. 1 - Mar. 2
Jul. 10 - Aug. 10
Sep. 27 - Oct. 5
The 2016 blackout dates for North America to China cover 128 days, or 35% of the calendar year.
In early 2015, Delta began publishing blackout dates for DL award redemptions on China Southern flights. The following blackout dates are now found in the Delta SkyMiles terms and conditions (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...blackout+dates):
Europe to China
2016
Mar. 18 - Mar. 26
Apr. 13 - Apr. 23
Jun. 25 - Aug. 30
Oct. 4 - Oct. 23
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to Europe
2016
Jan. 2 - Jan. 15
Mar. 27 - Apr. 10
Apr. 17 - Apr. 28
Jun. 20 - Oct. 2
Oct. 17 - Oct. 28
North America to China
2016
Feb. 12 - Feb. 24
May 12 - Jun. 30
Jul. 25 - Aug. 31
Oct. 4 - Oct. 14
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to North America
2016
Jan 2. - Jan. 15
Jan. 29 - Feb. 9
Jun. 24 - Sep. 4
Sep. 27 - Oct. 2
Oceania to China
2016
Jan. 1 - Jan. 5
Feb. 11 - Feb. 22
Jun. 19 - Jun. 27
Nov. 29 - Jan. 10, 2017
China to Oceania
2016
Jan. 1 - Mar. 2
Jul. 10 - Aug. 10
Sep. 27 - Oct. 5
The 2016 blackout dates for North America to China cover 128 days, or 35% of the calendar year.
China Southern and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
Oct 7, 2015, 7:17 pm
#272
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I hope I am posting this to the right thread. On Concur I can book a flight back from PEK to SJO on the 6th at 10 pm. I don't even see this option on the Delta website. Is there a way to get this to work? I see PEK, PVG, ATL, SJO. The flght leaves at 7pm. Perfect flight for me. delta only shows one leaving at 5:30 which does not work at all. any way to get this to work?
Oct 29, 2015, 2:26 pm
#273
Join Date: May 2011
Location: CT
Programs: HHonors Silver
Posts: 429
I booked a revenue economy ticket for a family member via priceline on CZ 300 (JFK to CAN), the family member added her DL at airport check-in.
Now her DL account says this ticket is not eligible for miles accrual? Any idea why?
I couldn't quite tell the booking class as it's booked via priceline.
Now her DL account says this ticket is not eligible for miles accrual? Any idea why?
N - This reason code means that this segment status is:
Activity is not eligible for mileage credit
Activity is not eligible for mileage credit
Oct 30, 2015, 8:05 am
#274
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 224
I booked a revenue economy ticket for a family member via priceline on CZ 300 (JFK to CAN), the family member added her DL at airport check-in.
Now her DL account says this ticket is not eligible for miles accrual? Any idea why?
I couldn't quite tell the booking class as it's booked via priceline.
Now her DL account says this ticket is not eligible for miles accrual? Any idea why?
I couldn't quite tell the booking class as it's booked via priceline.
Oct 30, 2015, 2:13 pm
#275
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Location: CT
Programs: HHonors Silver
Posts: 429
Oct 31, 2015, 3:37 pm
#276
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 224
And I have not had a problem using a US CC at a CZ ticket window in China.
Jan 28, 2016, 6:23 am
#277
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Location: India
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Posts: 29,698
i'm getting a good business class return fare from del-jfk on cz next month....the booking falls under 'j' for one segment & 'i' for the other 3....i know i'll earn 100% mqms for 'j' & 75% for 'i' but does anyone have any idea how to calculate the exact number????
Jan 28, 2016, 9:11 am
#278
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 385
China Southern
I had a domestic China Southern flight last month and it was very good. The meal was fine and the beer cold.
Feb 13, 2016, 8:49 am
#279
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
best miles strategy?
hi all,
longtime reader firsttime poster
possibly a stupid question, but these days I'm more a BA/avios user so not sure of the best approach here. I'm a Delta skymiles member but rarely take them anymore due to not being based stateside anymore and find SM coverage in europe to be not as good for my specific purpose.
Recently did LHR-CAN-BKK (+ back) on class E with China Southern.
Am I better to claim these miles through Delta, or claim them under CS Skypearl as a new member? Any thoughts on which one would retain more of their value?
Thank you very much for any help.
longtime reader firsttime poster
possibly a stupid question, but these days I'm more a BA/avios user so not sure of the best approach here. I'm a Delta skymiles member but rarely take them anymore due to not being based stateside anymore and find SM coverage in europe to be not as good for my specific purpose.
Recently did LHR-CAN-BKK (+ back) on class E with China Southern.
Am I better to claim these miles through Delta, or claim them under CS Skypearl as a new member? Any thoughts on which one would retain more of their value?
Thank you very much for any help.
Jul 28, 2016, 3:22 am
#280
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Floating around
Programs: UA 1K (1MM), DL Gold (1MM), Marriott LTT
Posts: 10,350
How long does it normally take for CZ flights to post to DL? I'm used to most SkyTeam partners posting almost immediately. I'm now a week after my outbound flights and no posting yet. It's a D and J fare but that shouldn't matter.
Thanks,
RM
Thanks,
RM
Jul 28, 2016, 6:00 am
#281
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Programs: DL SPlat, KLM Bump, Privium Plus, GOES
Posts: 2,066
Two datapoints: 4 and 7 days before they showed up on Delta.com
Aug 28, 2016, 12:01 pm
#283
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Not sure why an agent would think you couldn't book flights on a Skyteam partner with miles. Where were you trying to flying to/from? There can be a restriction sometimes based on that.
Aug 28, 2016, 12:14 pm
#285
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Location: San Antonio
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The CZ website has zero to do with a Skymiles award. The availability, routings, rules, and pricing are governed by the program the miles come from. Airlines don'toffer all their award seats to their partners. Each airline allows the other to book only what they've given them. However if no awards show on the CZ website then there's probably nothing that DL can book.
Last edited by flyerCO; Aug 28, 2016 at 12:20 pm