Cancellation, then deceived by Delta Gate Crew?
#31
Join Date: Feb 2022
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This. Totally agree. Anything more makes it possible someone could interpret your request as an attempt to game the system.
#32
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#33
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Just last week our Delta red-eye flight out of Lihue, Hi. was cancelled due to the first officer becoming ill and no other pilot being available. They had us disembark and wait in the gate area for hotel and food vouchers. Neither my wife or I needed to be back home for work or other reasons, so we waited patiently while others who needed to get arrangements settled lined up to claim vouchers....
I am not pleased with how the gate crew advised us with information that was not fully truthful. I have not accepted Delta’s refund (relieving them of further responsibility) and I’m not sure where to go from here. Delta corporate was good, but the gate staff (in a difficult situation) clearly gave me deceptive information.
I am not pleased with how the gate crew advised us with information that was not fully truthful. I have not accepted Delta’s refund (relieving them of further responsibility) and I’m not sure where to go from here. Delta corporate was good, but the gate staff (in a difficult situation) clearly gave me deceptive information.
We have been researching long term travel insurance as our annual three week trip to Europe this year incorporates air, ground and cruise travel, but we haven’t decided yet. Never had any real problems unril now. I also don’t think we are to blame for the problem here. Even if we knew what Delta’s official policy was, we probably would have gone with what the gate crew told us due to the circumstances.
Since my only use of Amex Plat on this trip was after the cancellation (I was burning Hilton points on this trip and booked the flight via Delta with miles) any coverage via Amex wouldn’t apply. I paid the fees and taxes on the reward tickets with my Delta Amex Reserve card. Their cancellation insurance benefits state: “ If you purchase a round trip entirely with your Eligible Card…”
Since the round trip was purchased chiefly with miles, it does not appear I would be covered by them.
Since the round trip was purchased chiefly with miles, it does not appear I would be covered by them.
Covered Trip delays that result from the following:
1. Inclement weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from traveling or continuing on a Covered Trip (e.g. severe weather that delays the scheduled arrival or departure of a Common Carrier);
2. Terrorist Action or hijacking;
3. A Common Carrier’s equipment failure, as documented by the Common Carrier; or
4. Lost or stolen passports or travel documents.
It doesn't hurt to file a claim but the issue that could result in denial could be the cause of the delay, not that you only put the fees and taxes on your Amex Delta Sky Miles Reserve card.1. Inclement weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from traveling or continuing on a Covered Trip (e.g. severe weather that delays the scheduled arrival or departure of a Common Carrier);
2. Terrorist Action or hijacking;
3. A Common Carrier’s equipment failure, as documented by the Common Carrier; or
4. Lost or stolen passports or travel documents.
OP here.
I should note that I am disabled (not visibly) and collecting Social Security because of that. I have three sleep related medical diagnoses, and getting the proper rest I need would have been impossible in the gate area at the airport. I don’t want to be treated differently than other people, but I guess it is relevant in this situation. I will include this (with greater detail) in my submission to Delta.
I should note that I am disabled (not visibly) and collecting Social Security because of that. I have three sleep related medical diagnoses, and getting the proper rest I need would have been impossible in the gate area at the airport. I don’t want to be treated differently than other people, but I guess it is relevant in this situation. I will include this (with greater detail) in my submission to Delta.
Good luck.
#34
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Join Date: Dec 2022
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I submitted an appeal to Delta yesterday, and I am waiting on their response.
To clarify, we as passengers did not realize that there were a finite number of hotel vouchers until the Gate Agents announced they were out. There were quite a few people (including one young family) that I am sure spent the night in the gate area. They needed hotel vouchers perhaps more than I did, but didn’t receive them.
i did mention my disabilities. It was imperative that I get a room, and I fully admit that I would have obtained one regardless of whether Delta reimbursed me or not. My problem is that I acted with the knowledge I had at the time and with the guidance that Delta employees gave me, in a situation that was put upon me by Delta’s cancellation of the flight. How much should I be refunded? Should I be made whole, or is it my bad luck to be stuck on an island with expensive hotels and no vacancies? I fully understand Delta’s need to have a published limit, but I also think some of these instances should be determined on a case by case basis.
To clarify, we as passengers did not realize that there were a finite number of hotel vouchers until the Gate Agents announced they were out. There were quite a few people (including one young family) that I am sure spent the night in the gate area. They needed hotel vouchers perhaps more than I did, but didn’t receive them.
i did mention my disabilities. It was imperative that I get a room, and I fully admit that I would have obtained one regardless of whether Delta reimbursed me or not. My problem is that I acted with the knowledge I had at the time and with the guidance that Delta employees gave me, in a situation that was put upon me by Delta’s cancellation of the flight. How much should I be refunded? Should I be made whole, or is it my bad luck to be stuck on an island with expensive hotels and no vacancies? I fully understand Delta’s need to have a published limit, but I also think some of these instances should be determined on a case by case basis.
#35
Join Date: May 2009
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I'm sure Delta at the time had no idea how many pax were going to need vouchers. How many were locals who would just return to their own homes for the night?
Especially being in need of a good night's sleep, I would have been eager to get a voucher asap. I've been in those situations and have stayed in some pretty crappy airport hotels (and some nice ones) but honestly, for one night out of my life I have survived.
How much should Delta reimburse you for a $1,000 night hotel? That's honestly difficult to say. We were in Maui on 9/11 and had to extend our stay by 2-3 nights before we could fly home. I recall American magnanimously offered to cover the cost of the additional nights and all meals (I believe my husband was Plat at the time). Then we got home and sent in the receipts and uh oh, change in plans, AA said they had no idea the extent that reimbursing all those passengers would be, and they rescinded the offer completely. Competely. All extra nights, extended car rental, all meals were on us.
I guess all you can do is throw the spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks. And what doesn't is just an "oh well, stuff happens". And next time grab a voucher while you can.
Especially being in need of a good night's sleep, I would have been eager to get a voucher asap. I've been in those situations and have stayed in some pretty crappy airport hotels (and some nice ones) but honestly, for one night out of my life I have survived.
How much should Delta reimburse you for a $1,000 night hotel? That's honestly difficult to say. We were in Maui on 9/11 and had to extend our stay by 2-3 nights before we could fly home. I recall American magnanimously offered to cover the cost of the additional nights and all meals (I believe my husband was Plat at the time). Then we got home and sent in the receipts and uh oh, change in plans, AA said they had no idea the extent that reimbursing all those passengers would be, and they rescinded the offer completely. Competely. All extra nights, extended car rental, all meals were on us.
I guess all you can do is throw the spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks. And what doesn't is just an "oh well, stuff happens". And next time grab a voucher while you can.
#36
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 315
OP: did you originally submit this on the expense reimbursement form?
I have noticed the agents who process those forms have tighter restrictions than if you ask for reimbursement through a general customer service inquiry. The upside is the reimbursement form is very quick.
I have noticed the agents who process those forms have tighter restrictions than if you ask for reimbursement through a general customer service inquiry. The upside is the reimbursement form is very quick.
#37
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I submitted an appeal to Delta yesterday, and I am waiting on their response.
To clarify, we as passengers did not realize that there were a finite number of hotel vouchers until the Gate Agents announced they were out. There were quite a few people (including one young family) that I am sure spent the night in the gate area. They needed hotel vouchers perhaps more than I did, but didn’t receive them.
i did mention my disabilities. It was imperative that I get a room, and I fully admit that I would have obtained one regardless of whether Delta reimbursed me or not. My problem is that I acted with the knowledge I had at the time and with the guidance that Delta employees gave me, in a situation that was put upon me by Delta’s cancellation of the flight. How much should I be refunded? Should I be made whole, or is it my bad luck to be stuck on an island with expensive hotels and no vacancies? I fully understand Delta’s need to have a published limit, but I also think some of these instances should be determined on a case by case basis.
To clarify, we as passengers did not realize that there were a finite number of hotel vouchers until the Gate Agents announced they were out. There were quite a few people (including one young family) that I am sure spent the night in the gate area. They needed hotel vouchers perhaps more than I did, but didn’t receive them.
i did mention my disabilities. It was imperative that I get a room, and I fully admit that I would have obtained one regardless of whether Delta reimbursed me or not. My problem is that I acted with the knowledge I had at the time and with the guidance that Delta employees gave me, in a situation that was put upon me by Delta’s cancellation of the flight. How much should I be refunded? Should I be made whole, or is it my bad luck to be stuck on an island with expensive hotels and no vacancies? I fully understand Delta’s need to have a published limit, but I also think some of these instances should be determined on a case by case basis.
As for the others chiming in, hindsight is 20/20.
#38
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Rather than get caught up in all of these philosophical musings, I'd suggest you take a breath. A simple "I was told you would cover a more expensive hotel by Delta staff and this was the cheapest I could find" in response to the initial email may have gotten what you wanted. Maybe what you sent yesterday will. If not, at some point, you will have to decide whether you are willing to lose more sleep over only partial compensation. (I suggest you leave out your 'should I be made whole?' and 'i have a disability that makes sleep important' in any further posts because it doesnt make you seem more sympathetic, nor does your 'i have connections that allowed me to get an expensive hotel room.')
As for the others chiming in, hindsight is 20/20.
As for the others chiming in, hindsight is 20/20.
Now it is time to lock the thread
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