New Domestic Premium Select Upgrade Preference
Jan 6, 2024, 1:50 pm
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New Domestic Premium Select Upgrade Preference
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I don't remember seeing a thread about it...
There appears to be a (relatively?) new option in the "Request Upgrades" section of "Travel Preferences" (the section where you untick the box so Delta doesn't automatically upgrade you to a C+ middle seat): "Delta Premium Select (Domestic Only)". It has the same Aisle/Middle/Window options as C+.
This seems to suggest DL will be marketing PS as a domestic product soon, presumably at least on flights like the NY-CA transcons that are operated with international equipment anyway. (AA will have a W cabin on their A321T replacements, and AS effectively sells a W cabin as F on these routes.) Good news if true...
There appears to be a (relatively?) new option in the "Request Upgrades" section of "Travel Preferences" (the section where you untick the box so Delta doesn't automatically upgrade you to a C+ middle seat): "Delta Premium Select (Domestic Only)". It has the same Aisle/Middle/Window options as C+.
This seems to suggest DL will be marketing PS as a domestic product soon, presumably at least on flights like the NY-CA transcons that are operated with international equipment anyway. (AA will have a W cabin on their A321T replacements, and AS effectively sells a W cabin as F on these routes.) Good news if true...
Jan 6, 2024, 2:08 pm
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Long-haul D1 Hawaii routes (JFK/DTW/MSP/ATL/SLC) that are flown with equipment with PS cabins are already marketed as PS and have separate PS fare filings (fare filings have P/Q/U in second to last letter of fare basis code and fares book into PS P/A/G fare classes as usual).
There are no PS fares loaded yet on transcon D1 routes.
There are no PS fares loaded yet on transcon D1 routes.
Last edited by xliioper; Jan 6, 2024 at 2:15 pm
Jan 6, 2024, 3:01 pm
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And I suspect it could still be some time before that happens, perhaps after a sufficient number of the new 3 class A321neos are in service. Right now I don’t think there’s enough equipment flying the transcons with a PS cabin to reliably sell it. And the 76Ls are mostly going to be flying JFK-LAX until they retire.
Jan 6, 2024, 3:43 pm
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I enjoy the C+ upgrades going into PS seats on equipped transcons right now. Seems pretty clear where DL is going though once they have enough aircraft with a 3 class cabin - I suppose I should enjoy it while it still lasts!
Jan 6, 2024, 9:18 pm
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I would disagree that this is 'good news'. It means, as was discussed in previous threads, that once DL rolls out domestic PS upgrades will become more difficult and certs won't get you into D1 from Y any more unless there is a seat open at the gate (rare) since you'd have to be in PS first.
Currently if a tcon equipment has PS seats, then a DM/PM upgrade at booking will let you select those seats and you can also use a RUC to get into D1 or comp upgrade to D1 at T-24. Once they start selling this as a new cabin option, I'd expect that to go away or only be good for a 1 cabin upgrade just like international GUC.
Currently if a tcon equipment has PS seats, then a DM/PM upgrade at booking will let you select those seats and you can also use a RUC to get into D1 or comp upgrade to D1 at T-24. Once they start selling this as a new cabin option, I'd expect that to go away or only be good for a 1 cabin upgrade just like international GUC.
Jan 7, 2024, 7:29 am
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I would disagree that this is 'good news'. It means, as was discussed in previous threads, that once DL rolls out domestic PS upgrades will become more difficult and certs won't get you into D1 from Y any more unless there is a seat open at the gate (rare) since you'd have to be in PS first.
Currently if a tcon equipment has PS seats, then a DM/PM upgrade at booking will let you select those seats and you can also use a RUC to get into D1 or comp upgrade to D1 at T-24. Once they start selling this as a new cabin option, I'd expect that to go away or only be good for a 1 cabin upgrade just like international GUC.
Currently if a tcon equipment has PS seats, then a DM/PM upgrade at booking will let you select those seats and you can also use a RUC to get into D1 or comp upgrade to D1 at T-24. Once they start selling this as a new cabin option, I'd expect that to go away or only be good for a 1 cabin upgrade just like international GUC.
Jan 19, 2024, 3:22 pm
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Jan 22, 2024, 9:21 am
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I think eventually DL will be more like the UA model on JFK-LAX- flying a mix of "nicely equipped" narrow bodies at lower demand times and going up to A350 levels when demand warrants, rather than the mostly 76L most of the time model they have now.
There are a lot of transcons that go out with 20-40 empty seats, and a lot with 20-40 standbys left behind- indicating that they really need more variation in equipment to capture all the demand without inefficiency.
I have no idea if they carry a lot of cargo today in the 763s, though.
There are a lot of transcons that go out with 20-40 empty seats, and a lot with 20-40 standbys left behind- indicating that they really need more variation in equipment to capture all the demand without inefficiency.
I have no idea if they carry a lot of cargo today in the 763s, though.