Happy with the changes….
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 153
Happy with the changes….
Well, only happy because they seem to benefit me but I may be one of the few. Overall I get it that most people get screwed with the new plan.
I don’t own any Delta credit cards so that part doesn’t bother me. I am a million miler but last year moved away from a Delta hub and don’t fly Delta very much anymore from my new town. With million miler I am guaranteed silver status which sounds like it will have a little more power and exclusivity in 2025. That helps me, plus all those MQMs that have been rolled over for years - 125,000 will be converted into miles next year which will give me a free trip somewhere when previously those MQMs were worthless. So win-win for me, but I get the angst from most people. If I was still in MSP and flying a ton I would be mad.
I don’t own any Delta credit cards so that part doesn’t bother me. I am a million miler but last year moved away from a Delta hub and don’t fly Delta very much anymore from my new town. With million miler I am guaranteed silver status which sounds like it will have a little more power and exclusivity in 2025. That helps me, plus all those MQMs that have been rolled over for years - 125,000 will be converted into miles next year which will give me a free trip somewhere when previously those MQMs were worthless. So win-win for me, but I get the angst from most people. If I was still in MSP and flying a ton I would be mad.
#2
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 62
Seems more indifferent than happy. You sound like you don't use the service, and it doesn't change much for you. 125k MQM would have given you Diamond and along with that RUCs and GUCs, now you end up with 60k SkyMiles, and no 15% off from a credit card. I see that as a significant downgrade. I don't think silver helps you in 2025, because of the MQM to MQD conversion.
#3
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 5,190
Well, only happy because they seem to benefit me but I may be one of the few. Overall I get it that most people get screwed with the new plan.
I don’t own any Delta credit cards so that part doesn’t bother me. I am a million miler but last year moved away from a Delta hub and don’t fly Delta very much anymore from my new town. With million miler I am guaranteed silver status which sounds like it will have a little more power and exclusivity in 2025. That helps me, plus all those MQMs that have been rolled over for years - 125,000 will be converted into miles next year which will give me a free trip somewhere when previously those MQMs were worthless. So win-win for me, but I get the angst from most people. If I was still in MSP and flying a ton I would be mad.
I don’t own any Delta credit cards so that part doesn’t bother me. I am a million miler but last year moved away from a Delta hub and don’t fly Delta very much anymore from my new town. With million miler I am guaranteed silver status which sounds like it will have a little more power and exclusivity in 2025. That helps me, plus all those MQMs that have been rolled over for years - 125,000 will be converted into miles next year which will give me a free trip somewhere when previously those MQMs were worthless. So win-win for me, but I get the angst from most people. If I was still in MSP and flying a ton I would be mad.
#4
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
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OP is in for a surprise end of the year when their MQM go to zero, since it sounds like they won't qualify for FO this year through flying. Guessing won't be too happy then.
#5
#6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Delta DM, 2MM
Posts: 1,254
I'm not entirely upset yet.
I routinely hit the $250k waiver (but also the MQD requirement). I churn AA and UA (and others) to find better redemptions, and move a lot of spend to other programs.
I'll have about 688k rollover MQMs, so Diamond 2025 will essentially be confirmed with the conversion.
I clearly spend enough on the cards to hit the SkyClub unlimited status, and the extra spend will now essentialyl be the same as the 250k waiver. For my travel patterns, I use my millions of SkyPesos on good cost per point redemptions, while relying on other programs to find pure J class long haul redemptions.
I'm excited to see the improved Choice Benefits to see how we'll play the game in 2026 and beyond.
I routinely hit the $250k waiver (but also the MQD requirement). I churn AA and UA (and others) to find better redemptions, and move a lot of spend to other programs.
I'll have about 688k rollover MQMs, so Diamond 2025 will essentially be confirmed with the conversion.
I clearly spend enough on the cards to hit the SkyClub unlimited status, and the extra spend will now essentialyl be the same as the 250k waiver. For my travel patterns, I use my millions of SkyPesos on good cost per point redemptions, while relying on other programs to find pure J class long haul redemptions.
I'm excited to see the improved Choice Benefits to see how we'll play the game in 2026 and beyond.
#7
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Programs: Delta DM, United Silver, Marriott LT Platinum, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 854
It's not like the OP was gloating about anything. You can feel bad for the people in the car while still being grateful that you weren't in it.
#8
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 2,236
Million Miler does not guarantee Silver Status as it is granted “annually“. We haven’t heard anything about that still being a thing. Maybe with all the changes, that will go away?
#9
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Paradise
Posts: 1,617
Silver in 2025 will still get you a middle C+ seat most of the times, so you will be no better off than you are now (that's assuming that Million Miler doesn't get nuked down the road). While there will be less elites; there will also be less upgrades as Delta is selling FC/C+ outright and looking to increase that number even more.
#10
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: On the run
Programs: DL 2MM/DM, Hilton LT Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriot Titanium
Posts: 573
Silver in 2025 will still get you a middle C+ seat most of the times, so you will be no better off than you are now (that's assuming that Million Miler doesn't get nuked down the road). While there will be less elites; there will also be less upgrades as Delta is selling FC/C+ outright and looking to increase that number even more.
#11
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 2,236
As of January 1, 2024, MillionMiler status will be #3 tiebreak after medallion status and fare class— I don’t see MM status going away anytime in the future.
I suspect that there will current DM’s who will be downgraded to PM in 2025 that will just buy into the FCM marketing.
I suspect that there will current DM’s who will be downgraded to PM in 2025 that will just buy into the FCM marketing.
Last edited by Mr. Tickets; Sep 15, 2023 at 9:44 am
#13
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 153
That stinks, I hadn’t heard that. Everything I read was that it was a 2 for 1 deal for your existing rollover miles. Oh well, 125,000 rollover miles going to 0. I only fly Delta now about 3-4 times a year so not a huge loss, but was hoping for a free flight. Thanks for the knowledge.
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#15
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
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