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Old Nov 11, 2022, 3:23 pm
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JNB to ATL Flights Cancelled the Last 2 days

Does anyone know whats going on….

Both Nov 11/12 Flights have been cancelled.


Looks like 1 flights headed to JNB from ATL right now and it left early afternoon.

Flight #200A/9900
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Old Nov 11, 2022, 5:17 pm
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ATL-JNB was cancelled/delayed 11/10 for hurricane Nicole. One plane too off today at 1:53 as DAL9900 and a second at 6:33p as DAL200.

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Old Nov 11, 2022, 5:43 pm
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Looks like there are 3 A350s all headed to JNB right now….never seen that before.

DL200

DL200A

DL9900
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Old Nov 11, 2022, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by SSF556
Looks like there are 3 A350s all headed to JNB right now….never seen that before.

DL200

DL200A

DL9900
DL200A looks like a glitch, not an actual flight. Just two planes.
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 2:11 am
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This is not hurricane Nicole related. Anytime that flight cancels in Atlanta going down there, if you run an extra section, it literally results in 3+ days of IROP hell for JNB coming back, because of crew rest. Yeah, it really takes that many days to get "caught up."

You have to figure out the earliest the crew on layover in JNB will be legal to go (based on their required rest), then make sure JNB station can handle the departure at that time, AND make sure ATL customs can handle the arrival based on that time. If either can't make it work, go to the next available time and repeat the question for the other parties. Eventually the crew piece meters itself out after about 72 hours. But the A350 fleet will be hanging by a thread until that happens. It is a LOT of net delay ingested into the fleet when this cancellation happens.

201/11, 201/12, and 201/13 have all "cancelled" (but really are just delayed, and rebuilt as 99XX-series extra sections for automation purposes).

The "200A" is just an ATC callsign change so you don't have to get overflight permits for a new 9900-series flight number. Even though the underlying flight is 9900, which is what the pax were rebooked onto what shows up in Delta FLIFO. Its just 1 airplane.
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 1:26 pm
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Nicole was in the flight path. The delay allowed the storm and winds to be favorable for the flight.

Look at the timing if you don’t believe me.
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by emma dog
Nicole was in the flight path. The delay allowed the storm and winds to be favorable for the flight.

Look at the timing if you don’t believe me.
Again, the cancellation wasn't Nicole-related.

<stamps foot>
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer
Again, the cancellation wasn't Nicole-related.

<stamps foot>
So, rather than repeating that over and over, can you tell us WHY it WAS cancelled?
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 10:22 pm
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respectfully no, because I don't want to be on the wrong end of some Delta inquisition for releasing company proprietary information (insofar as a cancellation code might be considered such. I know UA posts operation reasons for delays and cancels on their app. We don't).

The thread was about successive cancellations exit JNB, which I tried to demonstrate why that unfolded like it has this week, when even one inbound flight gets screwed up. the inbound cancellation reason is really academic, because the result is the same. Every station has their week in the frying pan, and this week it's JNB's turn.

Appreciate your understanding.
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 10:25 am
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Anyone know what happened to DL200 last night? Looks like maybe a mechanical issue that required them to turn around? Mostly asking because I'm scheduled to be on that flight tomorrow so I'm curious what's going on.

Thanks for any insights!
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 1:00 pm
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Anyone know what happened to DL200 last night? Looks like maybe a mechanical issue that required them to turn around? Mostly asking because I'm scheduled to be on that flight tomorrow so I'm curious what's going on.

Thanks for any insights!
Wow. That is a bad place to turn around. Looking forward to hearing what triggered that turn-back.
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer
respectfully no, because I don't want to be on the wrong end of some Delta inquisition for releasing company proprietary information (insofar as a cancellation code might be considered such. I know UA posts operation reasons for delays and cancels on their app. We don't).
I don’t know if you’re serious or joking, but tens of thousands of people (including every DL emp who has DLmatic access) have access to the reason codes. Just because they choose not to post it on the website doesn’t mean it’s proprietary.
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rdukrk
Anyone know what happened to DL200 last night? Looks like maybe a mechanical issue that required them to turn around?
Originally Posted by spongenotbob
Wow. That is a bad place to turn around. Looking forward to hearing what triggered that turn-back.
if I had to guess, failure of a dispatch-critical item that their maintenance contractor didn’t (or wouldn’t be able to) have available at JNB
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 2:25 pm
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Wow 11 hour flight to nowhere. Thats a really really expensive diversion and cancellation, even before you take into account the hotels, compensation etc that will be going to pax.
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Old Dec 18, 2022, 3:26 pm
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Seems alike ongoing operational issues for this particular route!
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