Delta Digital ID vs Clear
Sep 19, 2022, 10:52 am
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Sep 19, 2022, 3:57 pm
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CLEAR has a $3.6 billion market cap, so not a huge stake, but $216 million isn't something DL would want to just throw away to build their own digital ID product. Figure they would at least sell that stake first.
Sep 20, 2022, 4:50 am
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Clear is available to anyone.
Sep 20, 2022, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO;[url=tel:34614767
34614767[/url]]Digital ID is a partnership with TSA. Only works if your passport is on file on reservation or you have a KTN.
Clear is available to anyone.
Clear is available to anyone.
Sep 20, 2022, 11:07 am
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Not unusual.
(note they have both Airbus and Boeing aircraft, etc.)
Sep 20, 2022, 11:10 am
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https://news.delta.com/delta-launche...ate-experience
They started with the video/photo for international, and pivoted to use it for TSA verification. Smart.
I can't find whether United is doing it (i.e. in IAH, ORD, or even EWR), nor others.
Although American has a "digital ID", not as advanced as video: https://news.aa.com/news/news-detail...6/default.aspx
Sep 20, 2022, 11:19 am
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I can't seem to find a forum for CLEAR, but since we're talking about it I'll ask here.
Has something recently changed with how they process you? I flew a bunch in the late spring, took a few months off and am back in the air again, and I swear something is different. I recall always showing my boarding pass before but over the past few weeks on CVG-MCO-CVG, CVG-LAX-CVG and today CVG-JFK-ZRH they've just scanned my eyes and sent me past the TSA agent. Nobody has asked to see my BP which feels like it's a break from the past.
Has something recently changed with how they process you? I flew a bunch in the late spring, took a few months off and am back in the air again, and I swear something is different. I recall always showing my boarding pass before but over the past few weeks on CVG-MCO-CVG, CVG-LAX-CVG and today CVG-JFK-ZRH they've just scanned my eyes and sent me past the TSA agent. Nobody has asked to see my BP which feels like it's a break from the past.
Sep 20, 2022, 2:42 pm
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I can't seem to find a forum for CLEAR, but since we're talking about it I'll ask here.
Has something recently changed with how they process you? I flew a bunch in the late spring, took a few months off and am back in the air again, and I swear something is different. I recall always showing my boarding pass before but over the past few weeks on CVG-MCO-CVG, CVG-LAX-CVG and today CVG-JFK-ZRH they've just scanned my eyes and sent me past the TSA agent. Nobody has asked to see my BP which feels like it's a break from the past.
Has something recently changed with how they process you? I flew a bunch in the late spring, took a few months off and am back in the air again, and I swear something is different. I recall always showing my boarding pass before but over the past few weeks on CVG-MCO-CVG, CVG-LAX-CVG and today CVG-JFK-ZRH they've just scanned my eyes and sent me past the TSA agent. Nobody has asked to see my BP which feels like it's a break from the past.
Only DL BPs are recognized by Clear system AFAIK. (in terms of the machine pulling up without scanning)
Sep 20, 2022, 2:57 pm
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No. As long as system oulls up a BP, I've not been asked in awhile at most airports. However some they ask for it to show TSA. Most though just tell you to show yourself. It's really agent preference.
Only DL BPs are recognized by Clear system AFAIK. (in terms of the machine pulling up without scanning)
Only DL BPs are recognized by Clear system AFAIK. (in terms of the machine pulling up without scanning)
Sep 20, 2022, 3:26 pm
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trusted-travelers-732/
And a generic CLEAR thread
The Consolidated CLEAR Information Thread (Locations, Promotions, Value)
Has something recently changed with how they process you? I flew a bunch in the late spring, took a few months off and am back in the air again, and I swear something is different. I recall always showing my boarding pass before but over the past few weeks on CVG-MCO-CVG, CVG-LAX-CVG and today CVG-JFK-ZRH they've just scanned my eyes and sent me past the TSA agent. Nobody has asked to see my BP which feels like it's a break from the past.
Separately, the TSA agent always (IME) needs to see your BP just to verify that you have Pre if you are entering via the Pre lane, even when using CLEAR.
Sep 20, 2022, 4:48 pm
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FWIW there's a Trusted Travelers forum on FT
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trusted-travelers-732/
And a generic CLEAR thread
The Consolidated CLEAR Information Thread (Locations, Promotions, Value)
Separately, the TSA agent always (IME) needs to see your BP just to verify that you have Pre if you are entering via the Pre lane, even when using CLEAR.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trusted-travelers-732/
And a generic CLEAR thread
The Consolidated CLEAR Information Thread (Locations, Promotions, Value)
Separately, the TSA agent always (IME) needs to see your BP just to verify that you have Pre if you are entering via the Pre lane, even when using CLEAR.
That last comment about the TSA is specifically what I'm referring too. I was astonished they didn't ask to see it and was wondering if they were accidents.
Sep 20, 2022, 4:53 pm
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If I wasn't clear above, this too has been my experience. Clear agent at the beginning of the line asks for BP to confirm TSA pre but the Clear rep doesn't ask to see the BP after the eye scan. TSA always subsequently asks to see BP, but I have no idea if they are really looking at it in any detail - for TSA pre or otherwise.
Sep 20, 2022, 10:22 pm
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The only advantage I have found with, and the only deployment I have seen of, the Delta Digital ID system at ATL is that you can go to the Digital ID bag check area on the lower level to check the bag, and it never has a line. Never. I have not seen Digital ID used in any other way.
I am unaware of any Digital ID bag check area on the main level of Terminal South, but perhaps there is one. Or will be one eventually.
I am unaware of any Digital ID bag check area on the main level of Terminal South, but perhaps there is one. Or will be one eventually.
Sep 21, 2022, 5:04 am
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The only advantage I have found with, and the only deployment I have seen of, the Delta Digital ID system at ATL is that you can go to the Digital ID bag check area on the lower level to check the bag, and it never has a line. Never. I have not seen Digital ID used in any other way.
I am unaware of any Digital ID bag check area on the main level of Terminal South, but perhaps there is one. Or will be one eventually.
I am unaware of any Digital ID bag check area on the main level of Terminal South, but perhaps there is one. Or will be one eventually.