Originally Posted by DLASflyer
(Post 36037413)
What is Delta's plan here? Their 10-K says they plan to start receiving Max 10s in 2025 which is simply not going to happen. They are planning on 20 in 2025 and 20 in 2026. Likely none of those planes are coming, leaving the fleet 40 short. Other airlines are switching to Max 9 or Airbus. What is Ed's plan? Exercise his 70 321neo options? Convert Max 10 to Max 9?
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Originally Posted by ND76
(Post 36037855)
I'm taking my life into my hands next week when I take my first trip on a "Dreamliner" 787-9, operated by KLM JFK-AMS.
(including KLM 642 and 644) |
Originally Posted by DLASflyer
(Post 36037413)
What is Delta's plan here? Their 10-K says they plan to start receiving Max 10s in 2025 which is simply not going to happen. They are planning on 20 in 2025 and 20 in 2026. Likely none of those planes are coming, leaving the fleet 40 short. Other airlines are switching to Max 9 or Airbus. What is Ed's plan? Exercise his 70 321neo options? Convert Max 10 to Max 9?
737-700/800/900? |
Originally Posted by lindros2
(Post 36038310)
wonder which Delta pilots will be trained to fly them?
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Originally Posted by lindros2
(Post 36038310)
wonder which Delta pilots will be trained to fly them?
737-700/800/900? |
Originally Posted by ND76
(Post 36037855)
I'm taking my life into my hands next week when I take my first trip on a "Dreamliner" 787-9, operated by KLM JFK-AMS.
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36038014)
Was there a recent incident?
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But Beijing is the best quality company ever.
I meant, Boeing. |
Originally Posted by lindros2
(Post 36038310)
wonder which Delta pilots will be trained to fly them?
737-700/800/900? |
Originally Posted by rylan
(Post 36039932)
You mean there is finally going to be special training required to get certified on the MAX, and not just toss the pilots in and let them find out about the secret MCAS behaviors and whatever other surprises come up like with the MAX-8 model? Or are the paid off people still in place in the govt and allowing Boeing to get away with calling it equivalent to the existing 737 family and pilots only have to read the manual?
(or pay extra for door plugs that have all the bolts) |
AA just ordered 115 737 MAX 10 so they must still be coming eventually. Delta, AA, UA have all ordered the 737-10 now.
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
(Post 36051626)
AA just ordered 115 737 MAX 10 so they must still be coming eventually. Delta, AA, UA have all ordered the 737-10 now.
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
(Post 36051626)
AA just ordered 115 737 MAX 10 so they must still be coming eventually. Delta, AA, UA have all ordered the 737-10 now.
The only way to repair their image is to sell lots of them and have them fly many years without incident. |
Originally Posted by Mountain Explorer
(Post 36052612)
I'm confident Boeing is not going to abandon the model. No matter what it takes, or how long it takes, they have to get the max 10 certified. To abandon it would be concede that the design isn't sound.
The only way to repair their image is to sell lots of them and have them fly many years without incident. They have to concede that safety is their number 1 priority and they will do whatever it takes to regain the public trust...not keep shoving a square peg in a round hole and pray that everything goes right for a few years. |
Originally Posted by The Situation
(Post 36052796)
This is the reasoning that demonstrates why Boeing has such a terrible corporate culture and why their public image has been shredded. Knowing how the media reacts to every little thing, the first time a max10 makes an emergency landing for a medical emergency people are going to be demanding a congressional investigation and that the fleet be grounded (I realize this is a bit hyperbolic, but sadly not far off from the truth).
They have to concede that safety is their number 1 priority and they will do whatever it takes to regain the public trust...not keep shoving a square peg in a round hole and pray that everything goes right for a few years. |
Originally Posted by Mountain Explorer
(Post 36053065)
I can't figure out what point you're making. IMO, Boeing's reputation is shredded due to a poor safety culture, putting profit ahead of quality, and lying/deceit/cover-ups. I can't figure out what the media, the people, or congress have to do with anything. I assure you, the problem is squarely with Boeing. And the solution is for Boeing to fix all those problems, if they can figure out how (that's a big if)
The fact that the media is prone to amplifying and often exaggerating Boeing's woes isn't really inconsistent with your point though. |
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